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#1 Posted: : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:49:24 PM
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Just got this email.

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Hi, it’s Tim -

I hope this email finds you enjoying a great summer Pandora soundtrack.

I’m writing with some important news. Please forgive the lengthy email; it requires some explaining.

First, I want to let you know that we’ve reached a resolution to the calamitous Internet radio royalty ruling of 2007. After more than two precarious years, we are finally on safe ground with a long-term agreement for survivable royalty rates – thanks to the extraordinary efforts of our listeners who voiced an absolute avalanche of support for us on Capitol Hill. We are deeply thankful.

While we did the best we could to lower the rates, we are going to have to make an adjustment that will affect about 10% of our users who are our heaviest listeners. Specifically, we are going to begin limiting listening to 40 hours per month on the web. Because we have to pay royalty fees per song and per listener, it makes very heavy listeners hard to support on advertising alone. Most listeners will never hit this cap, but it seems that you might.

We hate the idea of capping anyone's usage, so we've been working to devise an alternative for listeners like you. We've come up with two solutions and we hope that one of them will work for you:

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Your first option is to continue listening just as you have been and, if and when you reach the 40 hour limit in a given month, to pay just $0.99 for unlimited listening for the rest of that month. This isn't a subscription. You can pay by credit card and your card will be charged for just that one month. You'll be able to keep listening as much as you'd like for the remainder of the month. We hope this is relatively painless and affordable - the same price as a single song download.

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Your second option is to upgrade to our premium version called Pandora One. Pandora One costs $36 per year. In addition to unlimited monthly listening and no advertising, Pandora One offers very high quality 192 Kbps streams, an elegant desktop application that eliminates the need for a browser, personalized skins for the Pandora player, and a number of other features: http://www.pandora.com/pandora_one.

If neither of these options works for you, I hope you'll keep listening to the free version - 40 hours each month will go a long way, especially if you're really careful about hitting pause when you’re not listening. We’ll be sure to let you know if you start getting close to the limit, and we’ve created a counter you can access to see how many hours you’ve already used each month.

We’ll be implementing this change starting this month (July), I’d welcome your feedback and suggestions. The combination of our usage patterns and the "per song per listener" royalty cost creates a financial reality that we can't ignore...but we very much want you to continue listening for years to come.

Please don't hesitate to email me back with your thoughts.

Sincerely,

Tim
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#2 Posted: : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:39:29 PM
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Oh no... $1/month.

I guess I"m not heavy enough of a user to warrant this email, but I get up to at least 30 hours / month. I'd be perfectly fine with it.

I love what Pandora does, and how they balance users against the evil forces that represent the sum total of the music industry.
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#3 Posted: : Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:27:16 AM
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Its still basically free. You are going to have to give up one can of coke a month.
"...its the worse recession since the depression" - and all that shit.

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Giller [GwDR wrote:
]Its still basically free. You are going to have to give up one can of coke a month.
"...its the worse recession since the depression" - and all that shit.


A buck. Not bad, even considering that they give you 40 free hours of music.

I love Pandora. I use it to find new bands I like and then shamelessly download thier music. I have a conscience, I buy the CD if I really like it. If I don't? Eh, it just clutters up my hard drive. Seems like a fair trade.
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Giller [GwDR wrote:
]Its still basically free. You are going to have to give up one can of coke a month.
"...its the worse recession since the depression" - and all that shit.


I agree. I mostly use Pandora to find new artists. Then I shamelessly download thier music. I have a conscience, if I really do like their music I actually go out and buy that CD.

...if it turns out to be crap...eh. It just clutters my hard drive. Seems like a fair trade to me.
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I love Pandora, but they are too tied in with the labels. We need a service where musicians can market their music directly to the consumer and cut out the RIAA completely. A lot of bands are doing this now separately on the social networking sites but it would be great to have one place to go to sample and buy truly new music that hasn't been run through the industry filters.
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Muffalopadus wrote:
I agree. I mostly use Pandora to find new artists. Then I shamelessly download thier music. I have a conscience, if I really do like their music I actually go out and buy that CD.

...if it turns out to be crap...eh. It just clutters my hard drive. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Me too, if they are alright I download a couple of their good songs, If I really like them, I buy their album in order to support what that group or artist does.
And if you buy the song or album though Pandora, via the iTunes or Amazon links in pandora, Pandora gets a peice of the sale, keeping them in business and hopefully adding more restrictions.
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Our house is like a permanent advertisement for Pandora whenever there is a party, if anything they should be paying you for introducing so many people to their service.
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Virus, they allow musicians to submit their music and they then pay royalties directly to them.

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WDF? wrote:
Virus, they allow musicians to submit their music and they then pay royalties directly to them.


Thanks,
I'll tell my son to get his band's CD to them.
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#11 Posted: : Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:08:25 PM
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I can't find the link, but it says that not all submissions are accepted into the program, but that they try and add indie artists as much as they can.

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Last time I used it their library wasnt that big.. I'd rather listen to pirate radio tbh
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#13 Posted: : Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:44:31 AM
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Lead Salad wrote:
Last time I used it their library wasnt that big.. I'd rather listen to pirate radio tbh


You're deliberately looking for obscure music, aren't you? "I'M MOAR INDY THAN U!!"
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#14 Posted: : Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:28:14 PM
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Muffalopadus wrote:
You're deliberately looking for obscure music, aren't you? "I'M MOAR INDY THAN U!!"

Actually, I had a classic rock station that played Out on the Tiles, All Along the Watchtower, and Who'll Stop the Rain at least 100 times a day.

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