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Please, for the love of god, remove cp_warpath from Tempest #1.
There's a reason why people play(ed) on #2... it was 24/7 2fort, which is what people wanted. There are other reasons people play on #1, something people like about the official maps or don't like about most user created ones. #3 is there for a reason, and if no one plays on it, that too is for a reason! It seems that some of the higher echelons here just looooove cp_warpath for some reason I cannot fathom (though I guess this is a perk of being in that "higher echelon"), but for my part it has no place on what was once our "Official Maps" server. While the inclusion of any single map likely won't drive people away, if #3 and #1 had the same rotation you'd expect them to have similar popularity. Any moving of a map from the rather sparsely populated #3 to the regularly populated #1 would only serve to make the rotations more similar, and their popularity more identical (in this case, a bad thing, since #3 is often empty).
For what my opinion counts for, warpath is a well-designed map that almost invariably breaks down into each side throwing themselves mindlessly at the enemy, shooting rockets, grenades, and anything else down corridors in pointless and frustrating stalemates. Maybe my opinion on the map itself doesn't count for much, but I think the fact that #1 was at least for a long time billed as an "official maps" server should right there determine the final map rotation. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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from what ive seen, its always voted for and a lot of people like playing it MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
yes. please go fuck yoruself and die.
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it's ok. all computer components have clearly dotted lines along which you can cut* to make smaller.
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It is one of the more popular maps .... but we have a 24/7 warpath / vote don't we... ? why wouldn't people join ... that one ... but they would rather vote it on #1.. ? ..... i dont know why.... but i agree having warpath on the rotation is pretty bad.... since packed games always seem to get prolonged.... and takes forever to break a stalemate...therefore.. those who wish for a rotation gets declined by people who are having a blast at warpath... and they leave the server...
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Apart from 2Fort, We shouldnt have any other 24/7 maps, even if there is a map vote, if somebody joins the server and sees 24/7 Whatever they dont expect another map to be on. We need to decide on good map cycles on all the servers, and leave them alone, stop assing around with the settings.
The set up should just be...and nothing else.
"Tempest #1 Official Maps - WDFNews.com"
"Tempest #2 24/7 2FORT - WDFNews.com"
"Tempest #3 Custom Maps - WDFNews.com"
...And as ES 3.0 is out now, I expect WDF? will be making Tempest #4 into ES again. We dont really need to have a 4th server at the moment anyway.
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I've not noticed Warpath being any more prone to stalemates than any other map. It seems like the majority of the time one side or the other wins. It also seems to be pretty popular, I've not noticed the server emptying out at all when it comes up in the rotation and I've seen a lot of comments from people saying they like it. I don't think we can ever have a map rotation where every map is loved and adored by the masses, but it seems like warpath is the most popular custom map out there right now. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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You're right Endyss your opinion doesn't count for much...;P jkjk
I actually agree with keeping Tempest #1 as official maps server, and bumping the custom maps to Tempest 3.
Here's why:
I've noticed, and according to stats, that during custom maps, people usually leave our servers. Warpath, less so, but powerplant definitely. I think we should leave these two maps to #3. Personally I like both, but I think with our decreased traffic, we should give a choice to players to play custom maps.
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If the majority on a server want to play a map then they should be able to. That's the whole point of having votemap. I think T#1 should be official maps but warpath should be available for votes. I personaly like the map and think it requires a lot of skill to play it well and win. {pDs}BelligerentPimp wrote:
No using the word "fucktard" unless you are refering to TonyRWC or Youngripark.j2. WDF? wrote:go fuck yourself hanukkah style.
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Warpath is as prone to stalemate as any other map with multipule caps (granary, well).maybe how it is designed it may make it seem like an endless stalemate compared to other maps but it just takes more of a team effort to cap out. (thats a good thing isnt it?)
and a lot of times teams actually do push and capout.
But what do i know. i like warpath :\
and its nice to have an offical map rotation with a custom map or two in it, its a nice change. besides, even when we did have an all Custom map server it just died and never really stayed full b/c people get tired of having to constantly download new maps that they might not even like.
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Personally I like Warpath but greatly despise powerplant. Powerplant is just drab map. Again I like Warpath and don't mind its presence on #1, partly because I can do suicide pyro rushes and get a few quick kills because everyone is bunched together. =) I'm the leetest one here 
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We're going back to official only. Sorry I've been away.
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