Ice Found on Mars. Total Recall Future is Near. Options
Filliam H. Muffman
#1 Posted: : Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:33:31 AM
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June 19, 2008
-- Dice-size crumbs of bright material have vanished from inside a trench where they were photographed by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander four days ago, convincing scientists that the material was frozen water that vaporized after digging exposed it.

"It must be ice," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson. "These little clumps completely disappearing over the course of a few days, that is perfect evidence that it's ice. There had been some question whether the bright material was salt. Salt can't do that."

The chunks were left at the bottom of a trench informally called "Dodo-Goldilocks" when Phoenix's Robotic Arm enlarged that trench on June 15, during the 20th Martian day, or sol, since landing. Several were gone when Phoenix looked at the trench early today, on Sol 24.

Also early today, digging in a different trench, the Robotic Arm connected with a hard surface that has scientists excited about the prospect of next uncovering an icy layer.

The Phoenix science team spent Thursday analyzing new images and data successfully returned from the lander earlier in the day.

Studying the initial findings from the new "Snow White 2" trench, located to the right of "Snow White 1," Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, co-investigator for the robotic arm, said, "We have dug a trench and uncovered a hard layer at the same depth as the ice layer in our other trench."

On Sol 24, Phoenix extended the first trench in the middle of a polygon at the "Wonderland" site. While digging, the Robotic Arm came upon a firm layer, and after three attempts to dig further, the arm went into a holding position. Such an action is expected when the Robotic Arm comes upon a hard surface.

Meanwhile, the spacecraft team at Lockheed Martin Space Systems in Denver is preparing a software patch to send to Phoenix in a few days so scientific data can again be saved onboard overnight when needed. Because of a large amount a duplicative file-maintenance data generated by the spacecraft Tuesday, the team is taking the precaution of not storing science data in Phoenix's flash memory, and instead downlinking it at the end of every day, until the conditions that produced those duplicative data files are corrected.

"We now understand what happened, and we can fix it with a software patch," said Phoenix Project Manager Barry Goldstein of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena. "Our three-month schedule has 30 days of margin for contingencies like this, and we have used only one contingency day out of 24 sols. The mission is well ahead of schedule. We are making excellent progress toward full mission success."

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/06_19_pr.php
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Do not get too excited.  It could be dry ice.  They do not have conclusive evidence quite yet.
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Oopsie wrote:
Do not get too excited.  It could be dry ice.  They do not have conclusive evidence quite yet.


Mr. Negativity here. Ice is ice man. Dry ice is drinkable. Give me a cup of dry ice and I'll pour in three tablespoons dry milk. You gave me lemons and I made lemonades... or in this case a steaming cup of cold milk :)
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You know, some chick once told me she "thought" she was pregnant for sure, and  that I was the only dude she had been with for a long time.   I'll admit, my schwanz is magical indeed, and causes women to do odd things, but why don't we just all settle down until we get some definite answers, from the professionals.

No need to go out and get married just because some bits of unidentified frozen material appear on a screenshot.
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I think Cantrip meant, bits of unidentifiable white stuff.
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HolyJaw wrote:
Oopsie wrote:
Do not get too excited.  It could be dry ice.  They do not have conclusive evidence quite yet.


Mr. Negativity here. Ice is ice man. Dry ice is drinkable. Give me a cup of dry ice and I'll pour in three tablespoons dry milk. You gave me lemons and I made lemonades... or in this case a steaming cup of cold milk :)


Lol  You do know what dry ice is, correct?  Considering that most of Mars' atmosphere is composed of carbon dioxide. 
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jamesbigmac wrote:
I think Cantrip meant, bits of unidentifiable white stuff.


Ya.  That would have been better.
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Oopsie wrote:
Lol  You do know what dry ice is, correct?  Considering that most of Mars' atmosphere is composed of carbon dioxide. 


It's probably wrong anyways. Very few people understand that dry ice is just dehydrated ice - all you need to do is add water. Sheesh.
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HolyJaw wrote:
Very few people understand that dry ice is just dehydrated ice - all you need to do is add water. Sheesh.
  i feel dumber just reading this.  
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HolyJaw wrote:
Oopsie wrote:
Lol  You do know what dry ice is, correct?  Considering that most of Mars' atmosphere is composed of carbon dioxide. 


It's probably wrong anyways. Very few people understand that dry ice is just dehydrated ice - all you need to do is add water. Sheesh.


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He was being sarcastic you dongs.

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