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Article Summary wrote:- Land conflict in North Amazon between Native peoples and rice farmers
- Conflict has become so violent, Brazilian Supreme Court warns of civil war.
- Brazilian Government has escalated tension by evicting farmers infringing on Indian ancestral lands
- Supreme Court expected to decide this month whether Brazil can continue to evict the rice farmers
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/04/world/main4320602.shtmlIndustry or Heritage, who is right? Can they co-exist? You wanna take this to Fuck Town?
Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Business wrote:Quote:- Land conflict in North Amazon between Native peoples and rice farmers
- Conflict has become so violent, Brazilian Supreme Court warns of civil war.
- Brazilian Government has escalated tension by evicting farmers infringing on Indian ancestral lands
- Supreme Court expected to decide this month whether Brazil can continue to evict the rice farmers
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/04/world/main4320602.shtmlIndustry or Heritage, who is right? Can they co-exist? Natives say "We were here first!" Farmers say "So? What are you going to do about it?" Natives attack them. Survival of the fittest. If the rice farmers can't keep what they claim, then claim should fall upon those who originally had it. It sounds like the government's reaction was similar by their moving the farmers out. If the government turns around and sides with the farmers... well... the farmers just got more "fit".
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might makes right is not justice. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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It's a territorial dispute. There's no such thing as justice. It's fairly primal.
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That what it sounds like at first glance. It sounds like the government isn't too terribly involved so it's going back one side versus another with no governing body saying who's right and who's wrong. But that they sided with the natives, I'm not sure how true that is. I really shouldn't speak on the matter knowing how little I know.
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RichardAwesome wrote:It's a territorial dispute. There's no such thing as justice. It's fairly primal. That's all humans are, is just a bunch of animals looking for a place to piss. The concept of owning land is bollocks.
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Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:might makes right is not justice. Might makes right precedes any other form of idea that can constitute justice. It was the very first form of justice that existed, and it lasted for thousands upon thousands of years, and was only recently eradicated by modern civilizations. But when talking doesn't work, as both sides are not willing to back down from their sides, no amount of philosophical discussion, be it eloquent like Endyss', or short, concise, and without unncessary verbiage, a la Brosnan, can provide an amicable solution, then neither side has an alternative, except to might --> right. silverwasp wrote:Be careful what you wish for... I have 10 younger siblings and I am only 20....
Yes.... Same parents WarMachine wrote:meh...maybe if he hadn't been handed a burning house he could have done great things, but right now he has won the Prize for what? Damage Control?
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Lead Salad wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:It's a territorial dispute. There's no such thing as justice. It's fairly primal. That's all humans are, is just a bunch of animals looking for a place to piss. The concept of owning land is bollocks. We as humans follow the same territorial principles as other animals. We just have fun little shiny maps with lines on them. It beats running around pissing on trees to mark the boundaries.
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RichardAwesome wrote:We as humans follow the same territorial principles as other animals. We just have fun little shiny maps with lines on them. It beats running around pissing on trees to mark the boundaries. Does not.
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HolyJaw wrote:Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:might makes right is not justice. Might makes right precedes any other form of idea that can constitute justice. It was the very first form of justice that existed, and it lasted for thousands upon thousands of years, and was only recently eradicated by modern civilizations. But when talking doesn't work, as both sides are not willing to back down from their sides, no amount of philosophical discussion, be it eloquent like Endyss', or short, concise, and without unncessary verbiage, a la Brosnan, can provide an amicable solution, then neither side has an alternative, except to might --> right.
Justice is an invention that enables certain institutions -- i.e. police, military, the court -- to bind the body, mind, spirit.
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HolyJaw wrote:Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:might makes right is not justice. Might makes right precedes any other form of idea that can constitute justice. It was the very first form of justice that existed, and it lasted for thousands upon thousands of years, and was only recently eradicated by modern civilizations. But when talking doesn't work, as both sides are not willing to back down from their sides, no amount of philosophical discussion, be it eloquent like Endyss', or short, concise, and without unncessary verbiage, a la Brosnan, can provide an amicable solution, then neither side has an alternative, except to might --> right. And this is why humanity is something to be overcome. At the heart of it all we're still just monkeys doing monkey things, even if we have elaborate explanations and justifications for our "just war" and "limited surgical strike". Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.
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Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:HolyJaw wrote:Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:might makes right is not justice. Might makes right precedes any other form of idea that can constitute justice. It was the very first form of justice that existed, and it lasted for thousands upon thousands of years, and was only recently eradicated by modern civilizations. But when talking doesn't work, as both sides are not willing to back down from their sides, no amount of philosophical discussion, be it eloquent like Endyss', or short, concise, and without unncessary verbiage, a la Brosnan, can provide an amicable solution, then neither side has an alternative, except to might --> right. And this is why humanity is something to be overcome. At the heart of it all we're still just monkeys doing monkey things, even if we have elaborate explanations and justifications for our "just war" and "limited surgical strike". No. Monkeys are smart enough not to overpopulate the world. We're a cross between monkeys and a virus.
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In regards to Dick, there is no such thing as justice, as Socrates proved oO Suffers from the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush
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