Poll Question : Was my college roommate a terrorist in training?
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Yes, Most likely. 4 30 %
Maybe 6 46 %
No, Definitely not. 3 23 %

Was my college roommate a terrorist in training? Options
Giller [GwDR]
#1 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 2:03:49 AM
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The following information is not fabricated.  These are true events based on my own memory and observations from living with the individual for 5 months. 

Following the fall season of '99, my roommate and friend, Endyss left our living arrangement in the dorms and also our university to side with the devil.  OU.  While he claims that the "programs" were better...it is my believe that he left me because i did not wash my socks enough and often commented on my "smelling them to see if they are clean" .  It's true i had a "multi echelon" system for clean clothes Before I had a wife, but I digress...

My replacement cell-mate was a Pakistani born individual named Saief.  I cannot remember his last name.  Now remember this is before the tragic events of 2001.  I really didn't mind and was actually kind of excited that I had a foreign student living with me.  My first impressions of were often whimsical.  He would constantly ask me questions about all manner of things, almost like a child.  "Hey man, what time are we allowed to eat", "is this shirt Fashionable?", "what time are we supposed to go to bed?", "is there any time I can't go to the bathroom?"  (These are not made up...I distinctly remember each of these questions, among countless others)  It took some time but I eventually convinced him that he managed his own schedule now and could do whatever the hell he wanted.  He like this very much.
When asked about his home he claimed that he was the son of a very important family back in pakistan somewhere and that if he acted weird it's because he was afraid that Indian (east india) nationalists legitimately target him for kidnapping and he wasn't safe anywhere.  He would spend some time talking about how much India and pakistan hated eachother and gave me a short personal history of the Muslim religion so I could better understand where he was coming from  and to outline the religious tension in that part of the world.  But he never preached any hate or terrorist mantras.  We never had any tension about differences in beliefs and he was usually pretty easygoing. 
Saief was going to school to learn to be a pilot.  He was quite excited about flying and constantly talked about it.  He seemed genuine enough and really put alot into his aviation courses...but quickly left his other studies to  fall behind.  He was that consumed.  Whenever he was scheduled for flying lessons it was really the only thing he focused on the whole day. At the time it seemed like just somebody really passionate about learning to fly...
And then there were the calls....
God help me the calls....Almost every day he checked in with his "father".  Often times I would have the pleasure of talking to this guy and the conversation would go like this: " Hello?"  "Put Saief on."  "He isn't here right now, can I tak...." "When will he return?"  " I don't know he usually....." *click*  
Then literally 5 minutes later he would call again.  Same dialogue.
  This would go on until Saief either came home, or I unplugged the phone.  I am not exaggerating....Once I wanted to see how long it would go on....he called 48 times over a 5 hour period one saturday.  Calls would come at any time of day.  Late night, early morning...afternoon....there was no schedule...which i thought was weird.  Saief claimed it was because his father was worried about the kidnapping thing...yeah okay man...your dad is fucking crazy.  They spoke in arabic so I have no idea what was said when they conversed...sometimes it seemed heated.  One time Saief was having trouble and missed a flying lesson....I could hear the tension in both voices as they argued like he had just done some horribly terrible thing that was unforgivable. 
Now to be fair, he wasn't like some secluded guy...he had lots of friends on the floor....he seemed eager to jump into western lifestyle and try things.  Loved American women.  Hell he even sometimes played Counterstrike on my computer (and additionally put a bunch of shitty arabic pop music mp3's on my machine...)
Now as the semester was coming to an end he seemed more and more skitterish...mostly about how well he had learned his aviation materials.  He spent most of the dead week working on navigation tests...and no other courses got attention for finals week.  I thought he was just being irresponsible, but hell.  I let him borrow my graphic calculator to help him out a bit.  Well at the end we talked about living arrangements and I told him that I planned on getting a single next year..and he said he was going to do the same...so we picked a floor together,  Kerr 10.  When we returned after summer....Saief was nowhere.  Non of his aviation classmates, or his good friends, or myself knew what happened or had any communication.  Phone was shut off.  he stole my graphic calculator.

I dunno.  I never saw him in any photos of attackers....i wonder if I ever will.
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#2 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 2:05:57 AM
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Cecilsan[GwDR]
#3 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 2:15:17 AM
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It was all planned...he got you comfortable enough to give him what he needed....a graphic calculator. 

A Very well laid out plan I must say.  Annoying calls from a crazy father, a seemingly negligence of other classes plus others...hmmmMmMmm <strokes chin>

Either that or he ate that messed up rotten peach we found in your mini fridge after moving you out.  Thats probably it...you killed him

endyss
#4 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15:40 AM
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For the record, the reason I left was because you and your now wife would practice babymaking while I was in the room.

As for Saief, I don't think there's anything that raises suspicions other than cultural oddities and the unfortunate similarities of his academic interests to the events of 9/11.  Parents can be nuts, and I have no idea what to think about the whole kidnapping thing, but I don't see it as evidence of any terrorist connections.

From what I understand, the 9/11 hijackers, all being from Saudi Arabia as opposed to Pakistan, trained primarily on flight simulators with limited experience in actual flight training.  The way you tell it, it sounds like Saief was extremely enthusiastic about learning how to fly, and not "to bring retribution to the infidels" unless you left out some major details.  If anything, the strongest thing that would make post-9/11 Americans raise an eyebrow is simply his being Muslim and from a dangerous part of Asia.  I'm all for increased vigilence, possibly even tip-toeing the line of racial profiling, and if the same was going on now I wouldn't blame you at all for keeping a watchful eye on him, but from a purely retrospective view, it doesn't sound like there was anything untoward going on.


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In the end, everything Endyss said.


crawdad
#5 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 9:29:54 AM
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Hold the phone!  Did you just say endyss is a DIRT BURGLAR of OU?!?  Please say it isn't so.

 

 

 

Yeah, it sounds like cultural differences to me.

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#6 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 11:03:04 AM
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I had a college roomate who was a freedom fighter in training, or at least that is how he thought of himself. Last I heard he renounced his citizenship and was somewhere in China.
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#7 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 11:34:47 AM
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That's crazy.  No idea though, maybe just weird cause he was foreign.

I had a roommate who was from Hawaii and he followed me around taking pictures of everything and saying how amazing the .99 Store was in Inglewood...
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#8 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 7:02:54 PM
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He was obviously a terrorist in training. Way to help out the enemy, you fucking infidel.
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meh...maybe if he hadn't been handed a burning house he could have done great things, but right now he has won the Prize for what? Damage Control?
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#9 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 7:11:07 PM
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RichardAwesome wrote:
That's crazy.  No idea though, maybe just weird cause he was foreign.

I had a roommate who was from Hawaii and he followed me around taking pictures of everything and saying how amazing the .99 Store was in Inglewood...

Surely you don't think a person from Hawaii is a foreigner, but it is funny to think you do.

Giller [GwDR]
#10 Posted: : Friday, September 19, 2008 9:09:30 PM
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crawdad wrote:

Hold the phone!  Did you just say endyss is a DIRT BURGLAR of OU?!?  Please say it isn't so.

 

 

 

Yeah, it sounds like cultural differences to me.



Yeah, he is.   I am an OSU grad.  Naturally we three have to hate eachother from now on until bowl season. 

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