Poll Question : Maybe this?
Choice Votes Statistics
Remove Cap Altogether 1 3 %
Remove Cap, but victims only lose 50% 0 0 %
Increase points gained/lossed peak to 100 from 50 2 7 %
Increase points gained/lossed peak to 500 from 50 3 11 %
Increase points to 100 but victim loses 50% 21 77 %
Increase points to 500 but victim loses 50% 0 0 %

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#1 Posted: : Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:17:30 PM
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Maybe better?

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#2 Posted: : Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:24:23 PM
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I agree with with 50% options, specifically 50%/100, however this is without knowing what the points would actually BE if they weren't limited. For example, how many points would someone have to have for a 5,000 point player to actually get 500?

Remember that there is NO SKILL FACTOR in these calculations, so we're still going to end up with a huge gap between "frequent" and "infrequent" players no matter the details of the redistribution of wealth - er - points.

I would also support a reset of rankings.

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#3 Posted: : Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:35:43 PM
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victim would lose 50% of what?
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#4 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:04:10 AM
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Razor wrote:
victim would lose 50% of what?


say the killer got 100 points. the victim would only lose 50 points.

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#5 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:05:49 AM
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50% of the total. So if Joe Noob kills Ducktor, he gets 100 points but Ducktor only loses 50. I guess that would work on lower values as well, so if someone gets 30 points the victom would only lose 15.

This has the benefit of "adding" to the point pool faster than TF2-related actions... but the more that I think of it, the more I think the ratio for actions is still wrong. TF2 is a cooperative team game, and turtling as a sniper or nade spammer shouldn't be worth more than going out and getting the objective. Which means the objective has to be attractive to get, which means it should be worth getting killed a few times.

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#6 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:30:32 AM
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Dragon wrote:
Razor wrote:
victim would lose 50% of what?


say the killer got 100 points. the victim would only lose 50 points.


I could live with that... That's a really good idea.
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#7 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:31:38 AM
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Just had a LOVERLY game of 2Fort. Of course I prefer to play pyro and attack, which gets me mucho kills but also killed a lot. So, playing a nice, offensive game, I had the delightful end-score of negative 811 points.

Can I just give ALL of my points to ONE player and get it done and over with??

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#8 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:40:33 AM
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Sunfox wrote:

Just had a LOVERLY game of 2Fort. Of course I prefer to play pyro and attack, which gets me mucho kills but also killed a lot. So, playing a nice, offensive game, I had the delightful end-score of negative 811 points.

Can I just give ALL of my points to ONE player and get it done and over with??

LoL.   the lower cap is making everyone who plays lose points...so its relative.  Well except for the players who are hiding and not going into temp2 to take on the public.      I picked pushing the cap to 500 lost points because I want to see the havoc it will wreak and all the hair that will be pulled out as the house of cards comes tumbling down!   MUHUAHAHAHAHAHAH!


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In my opinion wipe points monthly, everyone starts at 1000 points.  Kills are 50 points, victim loses 25. 
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#10 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:23:36 PM
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Sunfox wrote:

Just had a LOVERLY game of 2Fort. Of course I prefer to play pyro and attack, which gets me mucho kills but also killed a lot. So, playing a nice, offensive game, I had the delightful end-score of negative 811 points.

Can I just give ALL of my points to ONE player and get it done and over with??


What did we learn sunfox?  The moral of the story?  DONT PLAY 2FORT!!! lol :D
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#11 Posted: : Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:19:52 PM
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DONT PLAY 2FORT!!! lol :D


Amen.
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#12 Posted: : Friday, November 07, 2008 1:31:52 AM
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But this is what I hate about the points system... if you WANT to play 2fort, you better not care about points, cuz you ain't gettin' any. But play one of the CP or PL maps, and there's points-a-plenty even if you suck.

I find myself not playing certain maps or with a certain number of low-point players because of the whole points thing (and yes I know it's stupid, but the whole idea of the points system is to work your way higher - can't go higher if you don't play the most lucrative classes in the most lucrative maps... and also try to find a server full of noobs who don't get "normal" points yet).

Can we have some sort of reverse points competition? Get the highest points-loss per death (or at least fewest points gained) over a month and win a free paid slot! :-)

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#13 Posted: : Friday, November 07, 2008 8:46:04 AM
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Sunfox wrote:

But this is what I hate about the points system... if you WANT to play 2fort, you better not care about points, cuz you ain't gettin' any. But play one of the CP or PL maps, and there's points-a-plenty even if you suck.

I find myself not playing certain maps or with a certain number of low-point players because of the whole points thing (and yes I know it's stupid, but the whole idea of the points system is to work your way higher - can't go higher if you don't play the most lucrative classes in the most lucrative maps... and also try to find a server full of noobs who don't get "normal" points yet).

Can we have some sort of reverse points competition? Get the highest points-loss per death (or at least fewest points gained) over a month and win a free paid slot! :-)

Razor wrote:
In my opinion wipe points monthly, everyone starts at 1000 points.  Kills are 50 points, victim loses 25. 

 

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#14 Posted: : Friday, November 07, 2008 9:45:27 AM
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What did we learn sunfox?  The moral of the story?  DONT PLAY 2FORT!!! lol :D

So don't play anything basically...since tempest 2 is most active.  Dern!


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#15 Posted: : Friday, November 07, 2008 6:52:07 PM
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Indeed. No one's been playing anything else lately. Had another game of 2fort last night... 168 kills, 2.7 to 1 ratio as soldier, capped a flag, numerous defenses, minus 680 points.

I also just realized that this poll MEANS NOTHING TO ME since I haven't ever seen more than 10 points for killing someone in the past two months! And those people don't seem to be playing lately (guess they're taking "don't play and you'll keep your points" to heart).

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