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http://www.microcenter.c...phtml?product_id=0292153http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171024 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200013&Tpk=Rosewill%20RCX-Z3%2092mm http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0259027 http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-transformer-case-black.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145167 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0298864 I will then be using a sound blaster Audiology sound card that I currently have, as well as the current video card (6800 ultra oc) as a stand-in until I find out which video card I want to get. I want to get a radeon hd 4870 x2. I decided to go with a q8200. I will also be re-using cd-drives and whatnot. Does this current configuration seem good? The running total now is about $605 (without tax and shipping costs). Are the components I listed good for their price, or are there cheaper alternatives that have the same specs? Edit: sorry about the un-hyperlinked links, I tried to hyperlink them but something isn't working.
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this cooler instead, almost as good as the best on the market, the ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme which is $60 without a fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003 This ram is faster and cheaper and still and excellent warranty http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145 Better motherboard all around and also cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358 If it were me I would buy the Q6600 instead. The 8200 only has a 7.5 multiplier which will limit you to ~3400 MHz best case. The Q6600 is slightly slower clock for clock but I will do 3600 easily, 3800 isn't uncommon, and 4000 is possible on occasion. Personal opinion I suppose. Edit: didn't see the edit. All recommendations stand, I'd pay the extra for the DDR2 1000
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Thanks for the reply Deux, I actually was looking at that motherboard you specified, and planned on buying that. I think i thought the one at microcenter was the same. I am also buying the cooling fan you pointed out as well, after comparing, so I guess it was a coincidence :p Not too sure if I want to buy the ram for $54, was looking at this one : http://www.newegg.com/Pr...spx?Item=N82E16820145184Other than that, I do not know too much about the q8200 vs the 6600 .. i know i want to overclock it, but don't know the details of each model
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Nova wrote:http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0292153
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200013&Tpk=Rosewill%20RCX-Z3%2092mm
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0259027
http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-transformer-case-black.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145167
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0298864
I will then be using a sound blaster Audiology sound card that I currently have, as well as the current video card (6800 ultra oc) as a stand-in until I find out which video card I want to get. I want to get a radeon hd 4870 x2. I decided to go with a q8200. I will also be re-using cd-drives and whatnot.
Does this current configuration seem good?
The running total now is about $605 (without tax and shipping costs). Are the components I listed good for their price, or are there cheaper alternatives that have the same specs?
Edit: sorry about the un-hyperlinked links, I tried to hyperlink them but something isn't working. Well, you seem to have some good parts. You cane certainly shop arround for a better price on parts, but in the end you get what you pay for so that $50 mobo that seems like is has the same specifications will probably die in two weeks an be a $50 frisbee. I would definaly scrap the 3rd part cooler and use the stock one, unless you are going to do some obscene over clocking, which you really dont need to. If you are looking at increasing the speed of this system, you need to take care of some bottle necks which I have found 2: - The board you have selected can support faster memory and the memory spead is one of the biggest bottle necks
- I don't know what kind of files you have, but I have a TB and I cannot seem to fill it, find say a 500 GB drive and take the difference in cost to buy a 10k RPM drive. Trust me, you'll thank me.
Other thoughs:
- Your motherboard already has sound, and these days, onboard sound is pretty good, so you really don't need an pci sound card unless you are doing some profession audio production. Stick with the one in the mother board to avoid configuration issues, and other unforseen issues.
- Don't overclock unless you really need to. I see alot of people who trashed their systems by overclocking for the sake of saying they are overclocked. Also don't do it unless you have a serious plan on how to get rid of the extra heat. And if you are going to invest in 3rd party coolers, fans, heatsinks, mods, et al, it may just be work it to buy a faster CPU or graphics card. (Also overclocking tends to half the live of your components, so know that if you do oc, you may have to start replacing things in 2 years.)
- A clear case with lights looks really cool, but if this is going to be in your bedroom, or some place like that, and you leave the computer on or you use your computer in the dark, it can get really anoying, really fast.
Over all though, not a bad setup.
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Another though, if you are including rebates in your cost estimate, know that it can take 2 to 4 months to get them, if you get them. You'd be lucky to get 50% of them. Also, if you send in for the rebate, you cannot return the part.
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bragr wrote:Nova wrote:http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0292153
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200013&Tpk=Rosewill%20RCX-Z3%2092mm
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0259027
http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-transformer-case-black.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145167
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0298864
I will then be using a sound blaster Audiology sound card that I currently have, as well as the current video card (6800 ultra oc) as a stand-in until I find out which video card I want to get. I want to get a radeon hd 4870 x2. I decided to go with a q8200. I will also be re-using cd-drives and whatnot.
Does this current configuration seem good?
The running total now is about $605 (without tax and shipping costs). Are the components I listed good for their price, or are there cheaper alternatives that have the same specs?
Edit: sorry about the un-hyperlinked links, I tried to hyperlink them but something isn't working. Well, you seem to have some good parts. You cane certainly shop arround for a better price on parts, but in the end you get what you pay for so that $50 mobo that seems like is has the same specifications will probably die in two weeks an be a $50 frisbee. I would definaly scrap the 3rd part cooler and use the stock one, unless you are going to do some obscene over clocking, which you really dont need to. If you are looking at increasing the speed of this system, you need to take care of some bottle necks which I have found 2: - The board you have selected can support faster memory and the memory spead is one of the biggest bottle necks
- I don't know what kind of files you have, but I have a TB and I cannot seem to fill it, find say a 500 GB drive and take the difference in cost to buy a 10k RPM drive. Trust me, you'll thank me.
Other thoughs:
- Your motherboard already has sound, and these days, onboard sound is pretty good, so you really don't need an pci sound card unless you are doing some profession audio production. Stick with the one in the mother board to avoid configuration issues, and other unforseen issues.
- Don't overclock unless you really need to. I see alot of people who trashed their systems by overclocking for the sake of saying they are overclocked. Also don't do it unless you have a serious plan on how to get rid of the extra heat. And if you are going to invest in 3rd party coolers, fans, heatsinks, mods, et al, it may just be work it to buy a faster CPU or graphics card. (Also overclocking tends to half the live of your components, so know that if you do oc, you may have to start replacing things in 2 years.)
- A clear case with lights looks really cool, but if this is going to be in your bedroom, or some place like that, and you leave the computer on or you use your computer in the dark, it can get really anoying, really fast.
Over all though, not a bad setup. Ok thanks for the reply, I will definately give the points you stated thorough thought. I am not sure if I posted the wrong motherboard link, but the motherboard is $137 ( GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail) . And you say that the ram I picked out would bottleneck the system pretty bad and it would probably be worth the extra money for btter ram?
And also, I was also thinking what in the world I would do with 1 TB of storage. I will definately look into the 10k RPM drive, since I know that would make a lot of difference.
I would like to use the sound card which I already have, but I can imagine some problems it may cuase. The idea of the cooling is that I really want to get the Radeon 4870 X2 and would want to keep that extremely cool. The other thing about the case...I dont leave my computer on during the night. I can see why the lights would get annoying, but I can simply disconnect them if its a problem.
Thanks for your thoughts, bragr.
Edit: i was looking at those 10k RPM hdd's ... wow, those are expensive. Would going with a 500gb hdd @ 7200 rpm's work fine? I do not want to pay over $400 for a hdd, unless I am not looking in the right spots.
Also, does the hdd speed really matter when playing games when most of the resources is placed on the memory?
I was also wanting to go with the Q8200 becuase it comes in the 45nm design, so it doesnt draw as much energy and that it runs a lot more cooler.
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Back on the motherboard topic, I've built 3 machines with the UD3P board all of which run Q6600s at 3800MHz 100% load 24/7. All of them have run beautifully since day one. One thing to note, If you decide on the 8200 make sure to get the DDR2 1000 if you want to get the most out of it overclcocking wise. The 800 you have will limit you to just above 3000 while the 1000 will be fine up to 3750 and the CPU will stop before that point. With the Q6600 the 800 will take you to about 3700-3800 so no reason to go for the more expensive 1000. One final note on MIRs, if you send one in and don't receive it after the specified time frame call Newegg and tell them. They will almost always credit your card the amount with no hassle. I've had to do it twice s far with MSI rebates but never Crucial or Corsair.
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