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Suggestions on gamer laptops at around $2,000 Options
The_Spaniard
#1 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:58:16 AM
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I recently came into some extra money and I now have about 2 grand (exactly $2,300 so that's my maximum) to burn on the best gaming laptop I could possibly afford for that price. I already have a high end desktop, but now I need a gaming laptop for work and travel. If this new job pans out I could be traveling up to a couple of months out of the year and I'll need something to game on the go and work with which is also gaming, so kinda same purpose all around. So with 2 grand give or take I have to get something gaming focused, the benchmark is something capable of playing Crysis decently, which I will link a couple of possibilities that are in the price range that can run Crysis fairly well. Also it needs to be something that comes with a Win7 upgrade coupon, and has a Blu-ray drive so that I can watch my movies on the go or just hook my laptop up to a friends TV and use it as a portable player. Now my boss is currently working on talking to some contacts to get me a good deal on a higher end laptop, you know get me a 3-5 grand one for my 2 grand and offer some kind of advertising on the show in return, but if that doesn't pan out I want to have my backup already ready to order.

Here are a couple of builds I already have set up, tell me what you think, which you'd go with, or suggest something else. I want to get the BEST I possibly can for the amount of money I can spend, so let me have it!


ASUS G71GX-A1 - PRE ORDER
- FREE !! US UPS GROUND SHIPPING, Instant $30 OFF + ASUS $100 Mail In Rebate
(Use Coupon code FREESHIP in Checkout for Free Shipping)
- 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- ASUS Zero Bright Dot (ZBD) 30 Day Pixel Guarantee
- -IntelĀ® Q9000 45nm "Montevina" Coreāā€ž¢2 Quad 2.0GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB - Default
- nVidia GeForce GTX 260M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10
- No External Graphics Card
- No Video Adapter
- - 6,144MB (6GB) DDR2 800MHz Dual Channel Memory (3x2GB)
- Standard Finish
- - 2X Blu-Ray Reader / 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default Hard Drive
- - 320GB 7200RPM WD or Seagate (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default Hard Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 8-in-1 Card Reader: MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory Stick/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless A/B/G/N
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Asus G Series Matching Backpack made by Targus
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- Asus G Series Gaming Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- -Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit + Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Coupon w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's - Standard
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 2 Year ASUS GLOBAL Warranty, 24/7 Support, 1 Year Accidental Coverage & 2-Way Pre-Paid Overnight Shipping for Repairs (N.A. Accidental Requires Registration w/ ASUS)

Total: $2,036.00 with free shipping and before 100 dollar MIR


Sager NP5797 Custom Sager Notebook (Built on Clevo M570ETU)
- 17" WUXGA "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1200)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® Q9000 45nm "Montevina" Coreā„¢2 Quad 2.0GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 280M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- No External Graphics Card
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires Vista 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- None Standard--
- NP579x Orange Frame Trim Color
- ~ 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- ~Windows Vista Business 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) + Windows 7 Professional 64 Upgrade Coupon w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)

Total: $2,327 with free shipping

The second one has a GeForce GTX 280M instead of a 260, it has 2 gigs less of RAM, but it is higher clocked higher quality DDR3 RAM instead of DDR2 (does that even out?), little less HDD space, and while it has a warranty, it doesn't have 1 year of accidental damage protection like the Asus. Also arguably better construction and upgradeability? It's 300 bucks more for this one, is it worth the 300 bucks more, what do you guys think overall of this build on its own as well as compared to the Asus one? Also Intel® Robson Turbo Memory? Is it something I need or should tack on if I get a Sager, or is it just snake oil?

Those are a couple of builds I have going right now, what do you guys think of them, do you guys have anything that might possibly be better for that price in mind?
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#2 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:56:00 PM
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Although I am not really an advocate of gaming laptops, I say the second one only because of the DDR3 capability. I don't know too much about RAM, but if the first laptop doesn't support DDR3 but the second does, then I think the second would be a better investment since you can always upgrade the RAM yourself. Plus it ships with a slightly better video card. My assumptions could be wrong though.
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#3 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:08:57 PM
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Although I am not really an advocate of gaming laptops, I say the second one only because of the DDR3 capability. I don't know too much about RAM, but if the first laptop doesn't support DDR3 but the second does, then I think the second would be a better investment since you can always upgrade the RAM yourself. Plus it ships with a slightly better video card. My assumptions could be wrong though.

And aren't Sagers known for being really upgradable? As in I could easily swap out the GPU, CPU, or RAM down the road and not even void the warranty?
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#4 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:47:19 PM
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why would you buy a gaming laptop?

hey guys I came into some money what's a good square-wheeled car I can buy?

Why don't you do something useful with it like save it or donate to charity?
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#5 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:00:48 PM
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Lead Salad wrote:
why would you buy a gaming laptop?

hey guys I came into some money what's a good square-wheeled car I can buy?

Why don't you do something useful with it like save it or donate to charity?

And why don't you spend your next couple of paychecks on reading classes. Oh and maybe a nursemaid to make sure you don't shit all over yourself every time you try to think.
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The_Spaniard wrote:
And aren't Sagers known for being really upgradable? As in I could easily swap out the GPU, CPU, or RAM down the road and not even void the warranty?


That I am not sure about. I've never owned one, but I'd just be careful reading the fine print. I'm sure a lot of stuff that's user replacement is fine, but I know of manufacturers that are borderline on some user customization, like changing out HDD to SSD. Maybe you could google the laptop series and see if anyone else in some random forum has posted their experiences?
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#7 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:41:55 PM
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The_Spaniard wrote:
And why don't you spend your next couple of paychecks on reading classes. Oh and maybe a nursemaid to make sure you don't shit all over yourself every time you try to think.

You not hungry for stupid job, you hungry for HOT POCKEEEEEEETS
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#8 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:54:11 PM
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Lead Salad wrote:
You not hungry for stupid job, you hungry for HOT POCKEEEEEEETS


Oh oh, look there he goes trying to think again.


Now how about we pull this back on topic.
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#9 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:27:11 PM
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Lolz, The hot pockets comment reminds me of this food-loving comedian doing his thing on hot pockets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9c9lAfXQHs
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#10 Posted: : Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:40:10 PM
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Lolz, The hot pockets comment reminds me of this food-loving comedian doing his thing on hot pockets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9c9lAfXQHs

Jim Gaffigan is fucking awesome, but he was quoting one of the new Hot Pocket commercial. But yes Jim Gaffigan is MUCH better!
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#11 Posted: : Monday, August 17, 2009 12:18:49 AM
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#12 Posted: : Monday, August 17, 2009 7:32:18 AM
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Spaniard wrote:
Also Intel® Robson Turbo Memory? Is it something I need or should tack on if I get a Sager, or is it just snake oil?


it is basically just flash memory that is connected via a Pci-e bus. it is used as a lil mini SSD that stores frequently used data for fast access without having to go to the HD. I have heard that includes OS data, so that it boots up pretty fast..but I have never actually seen it in action. Its probably not worth 300 bucks alone...and they slightly faster video card is marginal...not worth 300 bucks in my opinion...

The Sager is probably the better of the two (i wouldnt worry about the -2 gigs of ram on it...4 is all you really need even with gaming. My high end desktop doesnt usually get very close to maxing the ram out). Now, its not going to be day and light better than the asus. You are talking single digit improvement in FPS in crysis (5fps or less improvement i would guess)

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The_Spaniard wrote:
And aren't Sagers known for being really upgradable? As in I could easily swap out the GPU, CPU, or RAM down the road and not even void the warranty?


I have a Sager.

Yup.

OH! Right. I don't know about upgradeability, but they're supposed to have the best warranties out there. I agree.

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#14 Posted: : Monday, August 17, 2009 11:15:27 AM
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Giller [GwDR wrote:
]it is basically just flash memory that is connected via a Pci-e bus. it is used as a lil mini SSD that stores frequently used data for fast access without having to go to the HD. I have heard that includes OS data, so that it boots up pretty fast..but I have never actually seen it in action. Its probably not worth 300 bucks alone...and they slightly faster video card is marginal...not worth 300 bucks in my opinion...

The Sager is probably the better of the two (i wouldnt worry about the -2 gigs of ram on it...4 is all you really need even with gaming. My high end desktop doesnt usually get very close to maxing the ram out). Now, its not going to be day and light better than the asus. You are talking single digit improvement in FPS in crysis (5fps or less improvement i would guess)

Well it's a combination of those factors, are all those things put together worth an extra 300? Higher quality faster ram, faster video card, better build quality and upgradeability, etc.
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#15 Posted: : Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:26:58 AM
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Muffalopadus wrote:
I have a Sager.

Yup.

OH! Right. I don't know about upgradeability, but they're supposed to have the best warranties out there. I agree.


I would like to know how it has one of the best warranties, it's a big sticking point for me, See the Asus has accidental damage coverage whereas it does not look like the Sager does. Please explain these wonderful warranties to me.
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