I am presenting arguments in defense of that which I believe in. You have failed to present anything, even in defense of your own hide. This, in and of itself, speaks volumes about your inability to defend yourself under the red light of accuracy in accusation. You have nothing to defend yourself with but ineffective sarcasm and a wounded drive to continue.

I'm researching a bit on you now. You've got my interested eye. A little past with eGO, I see. But no further interaction past a couple months of membership? Kicked? Likely, given your hostile disposition and infantile attitudes. A couple entrances under other clans/organizations, none of them seemed terribly accepting. You're a player without a clan. No one to accept you--no one to care.

So, here's the real extent of the history, since you've been so slow to introduce the evidence yourself.

[CMS]Noobina: Here is the exact history...We started playing on tempest...which peaked our interest to play tf2, since it was such a fun place to play, great community, etc. So we started to recruit some people. I noticed hwguy was a good player, I asked him if he was interested in joining. He said no. Thankfully, because soon after that we saw what kind of guy he really was. That's it. I asked him to join our clan before I knew what kind of person he was. Stupid decision to try and recruit based on skill.

Straight from the horse's mouth. You're unwanted, and it hurts you. You reflect this hurt back on others through macho displays of superiority--but to no avail. You're still not accepted. So you deal with it the only way that you know how--flaming. Attacks. Boasting, gloating, isolating yourself.

It's a painful struggle--I know.

Struggle somewhere else. Think of it less as mercilessly smashing an insect and more like...leaving a harmed fly out on the porch.

I ask again--

umad?

"The Dunning-Kruger effect is an example of cognitive bias in which "people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it". They therefore suffer an illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average."

I found this somewhat relevant.

thats neat, a person thats been here since 06 and has 3600 posts telling me about people he knows. honesty? couldnt care less. if i have to kiss pDs members ass for credability ill pass.


i saw u only 1 time on the tempest servers, u showed up, chatted for about 3 seconds, got ur ass wooped and rage quit, if i where to jump to conclusions i would say u hate HW for just being good at Tf2 from the time i saw u play. question is, should i jump to conclusions?

also, i only joined hwguy's club cuz he was giving out handy's to the 1st 10 people that joined

LOUD NOISES!

I came on here with my own opinion formulated through hours of game play and conversation about many players whom I know and with this knowledge:

Saying this, I read this entire forum from beginning to end and found myself agreeing with almost every statement that was said. Although this is the site of a large and overextended battle I just want to to say that this community is a place where people come to have fun, communicate, laugh, eat pie, smell the roses and get through life with as little bitterness as possible. Here there seems to be to a large extent, anger and frustration from many pDs member and the online community about this players behavior. Although I communicate with him form time to time I feel that his attitude in the past has been sufficiently lacking in order to earn the privilege of this community. And let me get that one more time, Being here is a PRIVILEGE!

My personal opinion is that this player does not merit his entrance to our world, a place where we come to relive frustrations, chat with friends, and enjoy a life with a miraculous amount of privacy. No matter where we are at the moment this place allows peace, and you are destroying it.

Please consider for a moment the comments that have been leveraged at you, the anger, frustration, and criticism. Consider your behavior, attitude, ways of communication, abilities, and life and ask yourself: What do we care about the most here? It is your mind, your social being; not your points or skill level. We don't want to medic you, so please in the interest of our sanity, depart.

WDF,

This is the one of the worse, if not the absolute worst, displays of anger in any internet forum/community I've ever seen.

Justified or otherwise, my presence is obviously not only interfering with this community but also peoples' lives, it's lame to pretend it isn't affecting a lot of you personally.

The later is more bothersome than anything to me. I don't want to interfere with lives.

I could gather up more votes for my favor but I'm going to let things go.

Please ban me.

Have fun guys, frag you all later.

Edit/PS: the people who have unfairly flamed the community they care about so much need to man up and apologize for berating them. The "munchkin squad" and flash spefically. It's funny how quickly values are comprised in the heat of the moment but it's time to amend your mistakes.

No...don't! Not when the results are so close!

You know, I can't help but feel like this is being drawn out for the sake of amusement. I'm sure some people are getting a kick out of all this drama, but I'm not. All this 'important information' stuff for a single player...is it necessary?

A player who makes other people not want to join...Isn't that enough of a detriment to warrant a ban? Do we really want him around to do more damage?

As admins, I think it's our duty to protect the players, and allow them a safe place to have fun. Not letting them fight each other for our amusements. We should nip this at the bud and carry on.

agreed. Everyone needs to put down thier torches and pitchforks. Just vote the ban and be done with it.