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Lead Salad
#1 Posted: : Friday, September 11, 2009 11:08:03 PM
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Is fucking lame.

Grow a dick and play against somebody in the top 10 for once.
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#2 Posted: : Friday, September 11, 2009 11:15:08 PM
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#3 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:05:10 AM
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I don't really care which team I'm on in-game. Today for the first time, I finally dominated Bendy. I find that an achievement just by itself as he's the one usually dominating me. I have yet to seek my revenge on Drak! Though, I'll give him credit; it appears that all he does is play TF2 all day. He has to with that score.... server whore ;)
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#4 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:10:30 AM
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My sniper rifle and my medigun don't have a player bias. nawmean?
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#5 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:31:00 AM
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Hey, I wasnt Fat, I was black. Im not sure how to be black yet. when you can dominate me when Im over 400 pounds. Then you can run for president and ill vote for you
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#6 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:32:14 AM
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haha There is quite a bit of stackage, but I try to play on the other team as much as I can to try and even it out. (Although i'm not much help lol :]) But yeah, it's kind of intense sometimes hahaha
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#7 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:13:23 AM
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I love that , When there winning and rolling a team with lots of pds its not stacking , but the SECOND they win ONCE everyone's like

OMG STACKING , FAGS , pDS STACK


seen this just last night we were losing, score was like 4/1 and then we won 2 times no real big player change and half the other team started whining like a little bitch , it was most amusing
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#8 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:37:09 AM
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#9 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:52:11 AM
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Bendy wrote:
Hey, I wasnt Fat, I was black. Im not sure how to be black yet. when you can dominate me when Im over 400 pounds. Then you can run for president and ill vote for you


sorry bendy, i guess its because of the class i play, but its not hard :D

defiance : oh fucking lol


i dont really care about the team stack to be honest, you guys have the right to play with your own friends, but as a clan when you know you are completly rolling the other team i guess you should be the ones to start the scramble vote ( thumbs up to triplebam for this ) but its not the case of everyone.

i also agree with frostbite that everyone complains about pds stacking as soon as the heat turns, and that their whinning is very contextual...after all, what is worst ?

A- a team getting rolled with decent class set up
B- a team getting rolled with 5 snipers and 3 spys ?

if you answered A, you should start complaining and asking for a team scramble

if you answered B, you should start complaining to your teamates before asking for a team scramble

even if my class is sniper, i know that 5 snipers isnt too usefull to a team.
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#10 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:18:09 AM
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So what is the answer? In my opinion it is up to the individual players to police the team setup. Last night we had 2 scrambles within 10 minutes and the roll was shifted. Did not make things more fair. To me the biggest problem is class limits. Having a good mix of classes is a good start to limiting the team rolls.
Christina
#11 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:16:26 AM
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Razor wrote:
So what is the answer? In my opinion it is up to the individual players to police the team setup. Last night we had 2 scrambles within 10 minutes and the roll was shifted. Did not make things more fair. To me the biggest problem is class limits. Having a good mix of classes is a good start to limiting the team rolls.


you know that we tryed at least 3 times to get a class limit vote and it failed all the time.
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#12 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:47:28 AM
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#13 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:02:42 PM
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I think it's the responsibility of both players and admins to take initiative to change teams when one is getting crushed. It's not rocket science to see that a team needs help. I also think the problem would be less of a concern if others wouldn't undo the autobalance that switches them, or would take initiative to autoassign to teams, and all the other basic stuff that I still see people doing and not doing.

I've seen mods that shuffle after each round end, but that doesn't give the losing team any chance to come back and devise a strategy. That's a pretty big expense in the game.

My only problem with class limits is that it doesn't directly solve the issue, only graze the areas in which classes and teams getting rolled overlap (which is not many areas). Even if someone is forced to play medic they have full ability to whip out their needle gun and go to town. There is no sure way to guarentee a team performs better if they are forced to play classes - some people are more indispensable as classes people often consider dispensable.
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{pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl)
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Lead Salad
#14 Posted: : Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:06:19 PM
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Auto balance and auto assign have nothing to do with skill and everything to do with numbers. They don't work. I can't count how many times I've joined the server and there's 6 pDs or GwDR, etc, on one team and a bunch of noobs on the other team. And there's less overall players on the stacked team, gee I wonder what auto assign will do?

It's not even a matter of one person 'taking the initiative' and switching teams. That never changes anything, because only 1 or 2 players will actually have the balls to switch, and it hardly balances the game.

!votescramble is the best choice we have right now and even it doesn't work all the time. Usually the peckerwoods on the stacked team will vote no, or people will accidentally vote no just because it's the first option (or because they're lazy and don't care). I think the two options are either giving some admins the ability to just scramble teams, or everybody needs to stop trying to justify blatant unfairness and grow a dick.
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#15 Posted: : Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:35:26 AM
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I sympathize with you Lead but this topic as I'm sure you are aware has been posted 1 million times and nothing has ever been done. A lot of people here sadly only want to play with people they are familiar with which is ok I guess but nobody seems to particularly like a good challenge. This thread will inevitably fade away until another pops up in 2 months and the cycle restarts. Again this could easily be fixed with CLASS LIMITS but that also proceeds along the same cycle as team stacking. I personally don't take any pleasure in repeatedly rolling people so recently I've taken to playing sniper and attempting to get points solely with Jarate. I haven't touched Soldier/Scout/Demo in awhile.

But yeah Lead is right. Even though theres no repurcussions if you see a blatant roll please switch teams.
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