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Muffalopadus
#1 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:49:27 PM
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This question has occured to me before, but I just remembered it. Instead of trolling the interwebs looking for the actual answer, I've decided to ask our motley crew of morons, jackasses, and naive niceguys (or some combination thereof).

Here's what I'm wondering: Why is it, when you're breaking to a stop in your car, it doesn't slow down at a constant speed all the way to zero? That is...you push on the breaks...you slow down...and right before your spedometer needle hits zero, your car jerks to a halt instead of slowing down smoothly.

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#2 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:05:33 PM
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You can't slow down at constant speed, so I assume you mean constant acceleration (acceleration is the rate of change of velocity and can be used to describe slowing down, speeding up, or even turning at constant speed (since velocity is a vector quantity))

Are you talking about hitting the brakes hard so the wheels stop rotating, or gradually pushing them down to ease to a stop like you're supposed to?

I don't have firsthand experience because I don't drive a car, and when I ride in one I'm not really paying attention. But as you are slowing down, yourself and the car's body lurches forward due to inertia, putting strain on the car's suspension, compressing the front shocks and stretching the back shocks. So I guess those springs snapping back into equilibrium when the car finally stops can cause a jerk.
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#3 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:20:19 PM
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Quit slamming on the brake pedal.
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If you keep your foot on the brake pedal and hold it in one position, then you apply a given force to the rotors via the brake pads (which are usually composed of an aesbestos or ceramic material with a high friction coefficient). As they apply that "frictional" force to the rotors by squeezing together, then the rotational energy in the rotors (attached to the hub and then the wheels) begins turn into heat, etc...you slow down. Now, at some point the force that is turning the wheels (torque) is going to be reduced by the frictional force of the brake pads sufficiently enough that it can't overcome the frictional force of the brakes and you lock the rotors, which locks the wheels, which causes you to come to an abrupt and lurching halt as teh remaining forward energy is transferred to the chassis and suspension (as Lead stated).

As most everyone learns, you can prevent this by taking your foot off the brake slightly as you come to a stop. Basically you are reducing the brake pad force on the rotor so that the quickly diminishing torque is never overcome by the brakes until the energy in the system is so minute that when friction finally does win out...you are basically stopped anyway.
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Muffalopadus wrote:
This question has occured to me before, but I just remembered it. Instead of trolling the interwebs looking for the actual answer, I've decided to ask our motley crew of morons, jackasses, and naive niceguys (or some combination thereof).

Here's what I'm wondering: Why is it, when you're breaking to a stop in your car, it doesn't slow down at a constant speed all the way to zero? That is...you push on the breaks...you slow down...and right before your spedometer needle hits zero, your car jerks to a halt instead of slowing down smoothly.

My thought on the answer is


Thats just me. I'm interested in all the funny things you can say, or pictures you can find to insult my intelligence.

momentum?
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#6 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:08:25 PM
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I usually just attribute this to the flux capacitor in my DeLorean. Could be what Giller said though...If only I had a DeLorean. Although I figured that it would be hard to get out of that car in even a medium-tight parking spot.

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#7 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:59:16 PM
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lololol look at me nitpicking your terminology with my obvious superior knowledge of terms


fixed.
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#8 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:00:25 PM
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Giller - even if you're just lightly on the break, there's still that little pop of forward movement. I guess no one read my spoiler tags since all you guys did was say "you were right, Muff" without any humor. =\
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#9 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:07:57 PM
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Muffalopadus wrote:
fixed.

Hey, if you're gonna talk about physics, you gotta speak the language.
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#11 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:41:26 PM
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TripleBam wrote:
Hey, if you're gonna talk about physics, you gotta speak the language.


But...but I wasn't talking about physics!!! D:

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#12 Posted: : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:57:49 PM
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Muffalopadus wrote:
Giller - even if you're just lightly on the break, there's still that little pop of forward movement. I guess no one read my spoiler tags since all you guys did was say "you were right, Muff" without any humor. =\


A little Pop of movement? if you break right this shouldn't happen and is probably the result of you having something wrong with the vehicle. Could be a completely shot rotor and the pad is grabbing, or something wrong with front end that is popping loose when enough force is present. Could be a bushing somewhere or a ball joint. You should get it looked at. That, or you are a bad driver....

My car doesn't halt movement abruptly unless i want it to. even at less than 1 mph.

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#13 Posted: : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:30:35 AM
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#14 Posted: : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:21:44 PM
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Muffalopadus wrote:
I guess no one read my spoiler tags since all you guys did was say "you were right, Muff" without any humor. =\

You call a DeLorean comment "without any humor"? I thought it was funny/clever.

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#15 Posted: : Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:47:04 PM
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Giller [GwDR wrote:
]lots of stuff...


So I payed more attention about my breaking and I realized that its mostly the shocks rocking backward as I stop.

I know you can get rid of the rocking motion if you let up on the breaks right at the end, but that wasn't the question.

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things to try and justify his joke


I'm sorry, but it wasn't strong. You set up the joke but it had no oomph! You need to follow through with something that was topical but non-sequitur enough to make me lol. :P
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