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Rank: The Illuminist

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Then it went to dom_rust and everyone left (went from 22 players to 10).
On the up and up! It was a total blast!
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Rank: Fecal Impaction For the Win!

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Can you yank rust for me for the time being? These larger crowds are going to cause the cycle to get re examined again. Some of the really fun popular maps are just not going to be large enough to handle alot of people. We had some issues with rust the other night with 17. I think rust goes back to vote.. and as hard as this is for me to say I think re-demise is going to be the same way..
Mappers! our need for large maps with alot of action just increased a bunch. Once Known as Grumpy... Oh hell lets face it... I have and will always be Grumpy
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Rank: Dutchess of Doodoo

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I'm down for something big, but I don't think one person can handle it by themselves, if someones got an idea for a map lets me know, as I would be happy to help out. You wanna take this to Fuck Town? Oh gadzooks, yes!
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If you're willing, I have a couple maps that llenta was originally going to port from hl2mp to hl2ctf and then decided not to. If you could port them you'd be my hero.
Also, grumpy, redemise was TERRIBLE with more than 16 players. We had 22 players and it was horrible lag.
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Rank: Fecal Impaction For the Win!

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Snooch..
Eh you are starting to sound like the 57 mapping projects I have tossed your way are starting to slow you down some? hehe.. I have no doubt and that is why I am very interested in trying to get some more mappers aboard. I just want you to know that Whut and I are aware of everything you have already done for us and we certainly appreciate it. This thing is just starting to grow by leaps and bounds and with it comes all sorts of new things that need to be done to keep it going. Need Need Need more new and better stuff to keep feeding these new friends of ours and keep em coming back.
This news on re demise is what you and I had talked about..Now that we are getting crowd sizes larges that fight club capacity we are getting into some uncharted territory with some of these maps.
What is the possibility on redoing demise on a larger scale? Broaden it out in width and depth and increase the number of spawn points. I am afraid as we get more and more crowded that spawn deaths will become and issue.
I think this has been mentioned before but I really need someone to fix NFS about now. I could really use something that size running at a fast pace without everyone going airburst mad.
Does anyone know Machinehead at all? I am seriously thinking about just asking him if we can bring a couple of his maps to the Tomb. I dont think he competes with us like we feel we gotta compete with him. He has so much demand for his 16 player server that I dont think he really needs to compete with anybody. Anybody out there know how he may feel about such a thing? Maybe he would like the chance to see even more people than 16 on his stuff. Once Known as Grumpy... Oh hell lets face it... I have and will always be Grumpy
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Last night was a lot of fun. There was a point , though, where everybody just seemed to drop out. I don't know if it was the map or the time of night but all of a sudden everyone bailed. Look at the scores in the screenshot - messingaround was owning everyone, although Whut was the cap master. Mad skillz that guy has.
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Rank: Dutchess of Doodoo

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Whut: I would be happy to look at any maps and make changes, my problem is that I do everything (work, gaming, mapping) off of my laptop. If I try to compile a large map my comp will freeze up (and I do not have the funds right now for a capable desktop). I can however, take a map make the changes you request, QUICK compile it, and troubleshoot, but that will not make it good to go for the tomb, as you will surely want a full compile for the boosted frames and better lighting. Grumpy: re-demise is for a small server, making it larger without changing the layout will just create more lag. Also I will have a tiny test map today for rumblefish that I need tested to check the multiple lung runes. Zero says it wont work, but I figure we will give it a shot, otherwise, that ones on hold till 1.8 release. You wanna take this to Fuck Town? Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

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messingaround was leg. leg is a CTF Godsend. There's NO stopping leg. Well, unless you're from aKa, cause ask Peace, we joined the server to watch a 2 on 2 with leg and zero versus some guys there, and leg, although he was dominating hard, was getting killed alot more than usual!  Last night was great. Too bad you weren't SS the other round of bedrooms, cause I, for the first time, nailed a "Holy Shit" and for the rest of the map, like 8 or 9 minutes, kept that killing spree going and didn't stop. It was awesome. I've never been so in the zone sniping. I'm apparently much more useful up there than anything. I can't remember who it was I hit, but I think Peace saw the snipe shot I had in dirtwork where I nailed the guy running into his base with our flag. He was literally in the open way to cap, and I just popped him in the head. I believe the reaction I got was "HOLY SHIT!" -- "Ns king" lmao Great night. And yeah, dom maps get the boot. If they get voted for fine, but otherwise... Also, zero and leg complained about the map cycle being so short. We should throw the football maps, the indoor ones, some of the DM ports like 2fort, and maybe some others back in. Just none of the SMG/Airburst whoring maps. No orbs either X_X Grumps, I'm still working on pedestal, so be patient  Oh, and Snooch, how are you compiling yours? Just using "run map" and then moving them to the CTF folder? Cause I think that might be why my pedestal2 fix was working odd lol  [20:39] {pDs} t3h Cam3l: hey craig, how do i set up a private server? [20:40] {pDs} t3h Cam3l: i want to teach my gf how to play and the crypt was empty but its starting to fill [20:40] Òá»Î·Ä¢ ÄÅĵÏÅ
Å: Fail.
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Rank: Dutchess of Doodoo

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Did you set up hammer to run with the ctf fgd's and did you set up all the directories correctly? refer to here: http://forums.hl2ctf.net/index.php?s=3dd922df3f3abe5adc81aa0585dfeb20&showforum=9You wanna take this to Fuck Town? Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

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Good lookin' out. I'll get right on that.   [20:39] {pDs} t3h Cam3l: hey craig, how do i set up a private server? [20:40] {pDs} t3h Cam3l: i want to teach my gf how to play and the crypt was empty but its starting to fill [20:40] Òá»Î·Ä¢ ÄÅĵÏÅ
Å: Fail.
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Rank: Fecal Impaction For the Win!

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Ultimately the map cycle is going to be able to do so much. I can design an excellant flow of maps for a small crowd. I can design an excellant flow of maps for a large crowd. The problem is as you guys well know is that we dont always have one size or the other on the server at any one time. I can move to a bunch of maps that would really be fun for a bunch of people to play but then these maps would be the pits in the late night early morning hours when we just wont have that many people no matter what we do. This would be akin to something like 2 or 3 people trying to play stone fort. It just never did go very well.
I have something in mind that is going to require a little bit of a change in philosphy from the way that we have done things around here in the past. I need to get with Whut and go over some things to make sure I have everything accounted for before I go into too much detail. I will let on a little bit though and say that what I have in mind is alot like what I was experimenting with last week when the crowds starting picking up for us. What I was doing was judging the size and nature of the crowd we had and use that info to set the map flow on the fly. Even if you pick something wrong the crowd will usually start calling out their real desires and you get even an even better idea what they are in the mood for. You then end up driving a big ongoing ctf playing party pretty much for as long as you can stay with it. This goes toward one of mu ultimate goals of putting as much control as possible over the flow of maps into the hands of the people who actually come to this server. I beleive if we can give them what they want when they want it then they will keep coming back.
There is some potential for abuse here and that is why I want to talk some things out with Whut before this goes into a more wide spread practice.
Note to Whut: The practice is controlled by the maplist.txt file which you never seemed to use much. This expands and narrows choices available through the drop down menus in mani so there would be no need for command line commands and especially no need for RCON. I think that should ease your initail concerns about this but I do have some concerns of my own to talk to you about when I catch up to you again. Once Known as Grumpy... Oh hell lets face it... I have and will always be Grumpy
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We have dual proc server machines that can compile anything you guys need. Let me know.
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