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Rank: The Illuminist

Groups: Administration
Joined: 5/8/2006 Posts: 8,410 Points: 2,875 Location: Seattle
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How about we increase the point cap earning to 100 but reduce the loss of points by a victim to half what the killer earns? So, if you kill someone way high up you get 100 points, but they only lose 50 (50 is the currend max point loss right now, so the change wouldn't be that bad). People would be able to gain massive points and feel good, but top players wouldn't feel so raped of points. What do you think?
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Rank: Frozen Penguin

Groups: Registered User
Joined: 12/2/2007 Posts: 7 Points: 0
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Emphasis placed more on the actual objectives of the map.. those who care only about points will be more inclined to participate in capping a CP. Am I missing anything? Isn't the point of the game to win (and fun, duh) by getting the flag or capturing/defending points? Sounds like a descent plan, but planning and what actually happens are two different things.
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Rank: Dutchess of Doodoo

Groups: Registered User, Server Admin, WDFNews.com Official Mapper
Joined: 6/3/2006 Posts: 2,239 Points: 330 Location: $L
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top players need raped lest their ego ballons so large that they require all 32 slots to play on the server. You wanna take this to Fuck Town? Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Rank: Administration

Groups: Administration, Newsie, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/6/2007 Posts: 987 Points: 783
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My only concern with this solution is that it mathematically doesn't really seem to fix the problem vis a vis high ranking players. Despite some people's thinking that I'm only concerned with maintaining a point lead, I'm all in favor of rewarding people more for their kills. But my concern is about the sting of losing points, that if you a) care about gaining and losing points (and if you don't, it doesn't apply to you so stop arguing "who cares." Obviously you don't, but that's not the point), and b) the number of players that take large numbers of points from you is so high, and the loss so great, that you feel compelled to change the way you play to minimize the continual loss.
As I understand your proposal, Killer points would be double the current amount, while the Victim would only lose half that number. To my thinking, then, the Victim still loses just as many points as without making the change. Now, if you simply halved the point loss and kept Killer points the same, or double Killer points and give the Victim only a 25% loss, that would be a change that helps address the concern I'm talking about.
And while I'm flattered at Business advocating sexually assaulting high ranking players, personally I have no ego invested in it. I just play 'em as I see 'em. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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Rank: Administration

Groups: Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 9/7/2006 Posts: 3,054 Points: 1,377 Location: Abbotsford British Columbia, Canada
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How many points gets recieved for capping? This being the objective should give the most points then anything else.  ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Rank: The Illuminist

Groups: Administration
Joined: 5/8/2006 Posts: 8,410 Points: 2,875 Location: Seattle
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As it stands right now, the capper gets 75 points and the team gets 25.
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Rank: Fecal Impaction For the Win!

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 11/6/2007 Posts: 1,341 Points: 15 Location: Portland
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Although sometimes someone gets upto 50 for killing me now, I like the point system the way it is. Mostly, I get a 32pt hit, but it works. If you support John McCain and/or George W. Bush, please click here.“I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.� - Ben Bernanke
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 5/18/2006 Posts: 280 Points: 24 Location: Los
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Anybody taking over under bets on how long before someone complains about this new scoring system?
lol jk...... {pDs}BelligerentPimp wrote: No using the word "fucktard" unless you are refering to TonyRWC or Youngripark.j2. WDF? wrote:go fuck yourself hanukkah style.
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Rank: Not Cool Enough for a Rank :(

Groups: {pDs} Member, Server Admin, WDFNews.com Official Mapper
Joined: 5/9/2006 Posts: 2,540 Points: 12 Location: ?
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Rank: Coathanger Abortion

Groups: {pDs} Member, Server Admin
Joined: 5/17/2006 Posts: 3,487 Points: 1,990 Location: Undisclosed Location
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I don't care what we do. I'm hoping that as more people get a bunch of points the losses from dying that players with a shitload of points get will go down and then they will stop complaining. I think we need a system where anyone who isn't in the top 10 gets 1000 points anytime they cap a flag or build a sentry or fucking login until everyone on the server thinks they have the biggest e-penis because they earned 1,000,000,000 points. Or a better idea, give anyone who can stay logged in and playing on the same server for 48 hours straight a 50,000 point bonus, then the stat whores will kill themselves trying to achieve it and we won't have to listen to them whine anymore. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 5/18/2006 Posts: 280 Points: 24 Location: Los
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Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:I don't care what we do. I'm hoping that as more people get a bunch of points the losses from dying that players with a shitload of points get will go down and then they will stop complaining. I think we need a system where anyone who isn't in the top 10 gets 1000 points anytime they cap a flag or build a sentry or fucking login until everyone on the server thinks they have the biggest e-penis because they earned 1,000,000,000 points. Or a better idea, give anyone who can stay logged in and playing on the same server for 48 hours straight a 50,000 point bonus, then the stat whores will kill themselves trying to achieve it and we won't have to listen to them whine anymore.
Dude even then someone would find something to complain about. {pDs}BelligerentPimp wrote: No using the word "fucktard" unless you are refering to TonyRWC or Youngripark.j2. WDF? wrote:go fuck yourself hanukkah style.
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Rank: Administration

Groups: Administration, Newsie, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/6/2007 Posts: 987 Points: 783
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As a semi-serious suggestion that hasn't really been mentioned yet, why don't we just get rid of the stat system altogether?
The system was implemented as a harmless way to get people to come back, to become invested in the servers, to want to increase their score. Yet it seems all the "respected members of the community" just feel like it's become a pain in the ass and would rather attack anyone that wants to engage in serious discussion of its variables. Personally, I'm tired worrying that posting my thoughts on the subject is going to result in a slew of divisive, accusatory comments about how self serving I am, or how little of a life I have. I'm tired of playing differently than normal because of the point loss I'd suffer, and as long as I see "x got 50 points for killing Endyss [GwDR]" I'm going to take note of it (sorry, a flaw of mine I guess. Attack me for it.)
So let's either get rid of the whole thing and let people come back because they just like the community and how well the servers are run, or let's have all the people that doesn't care about the point system quit wasting everyone's time reading their unconstructive sarcasm and insults, and get to work on making it a fair system that continues to draw regular players back for more. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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Rank: Polio Power!

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 5/19/2006 Posts: 495 Points: 0 Location: Banker's Hill, San Diego
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WDF? wrote:As it stands right now, the capper gets 75 points and the team gets 25.
this is super sexy. i <3 objectives way more cuz of it. i will cap til i die. and usually do....
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Rank: Coathanger Abortion

Groups: {pDs} Member, Server Admin
Joined: 5/17/2006 Posts: 3,487 Points: 1,990 Location: Undisclosed Location
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is it possible to disable hlstats messages in-game? Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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Rank: Polio Power!

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/20/2007 Posts: 559 Points: 15 Location: USA
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Last time i capped the intel and took over a cp I only got 50, but that was a couple days ago
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