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Refers only to engineer class (I have tried glitch and it works.....really well..)
Ok so after you spawn you walk out of spawn. the instant you can build an object go ahead and start with a dispenser. You should have i think 100metal left. After only initizaliing the build process you get 5 pts. Now right after starting the build destroy the object. Yout wont lose pts and if your close enuf when it explodes youll get atleast 30 more metal and you can build a sentinal. This gives you another 5 pts instantly. Then right away destroy sentinal go back in the spawn and get more metal. This whole process takes about 5 seconds if you are quick and you just accumulated a net of +10 pts with no risk! IF someone was really set on jumping ranks you can do this for a few hours and tens of thousands. Ive seen a fewplayers doing this.......
NOW i know some of you dont care about the pt system and your opionions are fine. Plz dont post a follow up saying "pt system is dumb anways" because we have a ton of regulars who play this server alot and have dedicated their time just for the pt system. Dont get me wrong they love the community but they also want to be rewarded as a top player for dedicating so much time to these servers.
I think we shold try to think of a fix to this exploit to preserve the integrity of the servers Code:<a href="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/" target="_blank" title="Sloganizer - the slogan generator"><img src="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Sloganizer,white,black.png" border="0" alt="generated by sloganizer.net" title="This slogan was generated by sloganizer.net"/></a>
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.... has this even been abused in our servers? {pDs} Lead Salad: bike why did you change your name
Jessica343: so I can get heals
{pDs} Lead Salad: oh damn good idea
{pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl)
Jessica343: hahah
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Bike wrote:.... has this even been abused in our servers?
yes ive seen it...not sure to what extent however Code:<a href="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/" target="_blank" title="Sloganizer - the slogan generator"><img src="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Sloganizer,white,black.png" border="0" alt="generated by sloganizer.net" title="This slogan was generated by sloganizer.net"/></a>
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I always figured people would exploit in that way, but it would be easy to filter them out, see someone high rank and you check their stats and all their points are shown for just building stuff then you have the proof you need to do whatever you want to them.
Only reason I even thought of it is I spend 95% of my time playing as an engy, the regulars on server 2 know where I am usually parked with my SG and dispenser :)
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Unless someone automates this I don't think it's a big deal. I can't see them earning very many points per hour and this sounds like a really boring and tedious way to get points. My guess is they will get carpal tunnel and give up before they earn more than a few hundred points at most, or some noob will wander by and kill them and they will lose a shitload of points and then realize they just wasted an hour of their life and go back to actually playing the game. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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If you see engineers building/destroying for the sake of points, then they are not completing game objectives and are breaking server rules. An admin should deal with an issue like this.
Correct me if I am misunderstood. {pDs} Lead Salad: bike why did you change your name
Jessica343: so I can get heals
{pDs} Lead Salad: oh damn good idea
{pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl)
Jessica343: hahah
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agreed i think this is something that will have to be fixed by admins and reported by the community ......this should not be allowed..hopefully our admins do their jobs Code:<a href="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/" target="_blank" title="Sloganizer - the slogan generator"><img src="http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Sloganizer,white,black.png" border="0" alt="generated by sloganizer.net" title="This slogan was generated by sloganizer.net"/></a>
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I saw one guy doing it last week, asked him "politely" top cease and he did. I disagree with Dick, though, I think you could rack up points far faster with it than killing people normally, but you would have to do it for such a duration, someone would surely notice. Not to mention ya, it'd be easy to see on the scores who is doing it.
I think this is a case to wait and see if anyone actually starts significantly rising by doing it, at which time we can either have a friendly talk with him, just ban him, or delete all his work from the stats (and I'm sure after one time of that he wouldn't go to the trouble again. And if anyone sees someone doing it, give them a hard time, or if you're an admin, perhaps a slightly harder one... :-) HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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KaOTiK wrote:I always figured people would exploit in that way, but it would be easy to filter them out, see someone high rank and you check their stats and all their points are shown for just building stuff then you have the proof you need to do whatever you want to them.
Only reason I even thought of it is I spend 95% of my time playing as an engy, the regulars on server 2 know where I am usually parked with my SG and dispenser :)
I tend to call this "kaotic camping." He has laid claim to several square feet on server two...
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Bike wrote:
If you see engineers building/destroying for the sake of points, then they are not completing game objectives and are breaking server rules. An admin should deal with an issue like this.
Correct me if I am misunderstood.
agreed MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
yes. please go fuck yoruself and die.
MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
it's ok. all computer components have clearly dotted lines along which you can cut* to make smaller.
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Xfactor wrote:
KaOTiK wrote:I always figured people would exploit in that way, but it would be easy to filter them out, see someone high rank and you check their stats and all their points are shown for just building stuff then you have the proof you need to do whatever you want to them.
Only reason I even thought of it is I spend 95% of my time playing as an engy, the regulars on server 2 know where I am usually parked with my SG and dispenser :)
I tend to call this "kaotic camping." He has laid claim to several square feet on server two...
lol Brain you know you love it when you are on that level fighting, baiting people in so you get the assist and always having a close spot to heal and get ammo
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 You wanna take this to Fuck Town?
Oh gadzooks, yes!
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I wish the admin tools had fun stuff like slapping and drugging. This is totally the kind of behavior that calls for someone to get smacked across the map. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.
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Dick Cheney's Mechanical Heart wrote:I wish the admin tools had fun stuff like slapping and drugging. This is totally the kind of behavior that calls for someone to get smacked across the map.
lol, bring back mani
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endyss wrote:
I think you could rack up points far faster with it than killing people normally, but you would have to do it for such a duration, someone would surely notice. Not to mention ya, it'd be easy to see on the scores who is doing it.
I have my builds/destructions bound to a key so i dont have to hassle with the build and destroy menu. I'm sure others can script this easily. Also, buildings don't show up on the scoreboard.
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