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Alrighty I'm sure this will start a war and I'm sure its been discussed before but I just thought I would add my opinion in. I'm not a big fan of 2fort, like a lot of other people, and I think it would be super cool if it could be taken out of the #1 map rotation. I understand that the tagline is "official maps" but since there's already a 24/7 2fort server for people who enjoy playing that map, it would be great if #1 was a 2fort-free haven for those of us who really dislike it. I also understand the map time is only 45 minutes or so (maybe an hour?) but that's still an hour that I'd rather spend playing another map.
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Rank: Coathanger Abortion

Groups: {pDs} Member, Server Admin
Joined: 5/17/2006 Posts: 3,487 Points: 1,990 Location: Undisclosed Location
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you should play on tempest 3 more - 2fort is part of the rotation but there are so many maps that it rarely winds up on it. I doubt we will take 2fort out of the rotation, I know a lot of people get burned out on it but it's still one of the most popular maps around. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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Sure - its popular enough to have its own server, but it seems like anytime I play on #1 and 2fort comes around most of the people grumble and just wade through it - the people who really like it are all on the 24/7 server. I really enjoy all the official maps except that one. I don't think taking it out of the rotation on that server will decrease its popularity at all. We'll see if some more people read this thread and agree with me.
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Joined: 12/19/2007 Posts: 13 Points: 0 Location: RENO, NV
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While i don't disagree that 2fort is popular and probably brings people to the server, but i think anyone who really likes it plays on the dedicated 2fort server. I mainly play on server 1 and almost everytime 2fort comes on people start to bitch (me included). What I would really like to see happen is some sort of skip map vote, i mean if 1/2 the people want to skip it then why not? Some maps people just get sick of. At night it's usually 2fort or granary that causes masses of people to stop playing and that sucks because then the only thing the few of us who want to play have is customs and 2fort. I realize this is a free server, but i suspect more people feel this way then just a few, and if you wanna make things more enjoyable then maybe consider change? DARREN!!!
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Rank: Coathanger Abortion

Groups: {pDs} Member, Server Admin
Joined: 5/17/2006 Posts: 3,487 Points: 1,990 Location: Undisclosed Location
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Interesting. Something you can do is ask an admin to start a map vote, unless a bunch of people are adamant about sticking with a map I'm pretty much always willing to start a map vote, and if a map is driving people off that sounds like just the kind of situation for one. If no admins are on the server you can check the wdfnews steam community (you guys are members right? if not you should sign up) and it will show you what admins are online so you can message them. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

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Joined: 12/2/2007 Posts: 282 Points: 0 Location: Toledo, Ohio
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Last night there were several people who voiced a negative opinion about two fort. The only problem is that there was an equal amount who "Liked" the two fort. No server rotation is perfect. At least it is a short cycle for two fort compared to the other server..
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Rank: Administration

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Joined: 9/7/2006 Posts: 3,054 Points: 1,377 Location: Abbotsford British Columbia, Canada
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I don't think we will take it out of the rotation, but as Dick said, if you don't feel like playing the current map you can always call upon an admin to get a votemap started.  ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Brian, thats why I think we should have the vote thing, if some people don't wanna play it and some do, then let a vote settle it. I just don't honestly believe anyone besides maybe a sniper or two actually wanted to play it. I know you wanted to play it and your an admin so that settles that, but why be against entertaining the idea of a vote to maximize happiness?
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Rank: You're gonna stick that where?

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Joined: 12/2/2007 Posts: 282 Points: 0 Location: Toledo, Ohio
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DARREN!!! wrote:Brian, thats why I think we should have the vote thing, if some people don't wanna play it and some do, then let a vote settle it. I just don't honestly believe anyone besides maybe a sniper or two actually wanted to play it. I know you wanted to play it and your an admin so that settles that, but why be against entertaining the idea of a vote to maximize happiness?
My entire philosphy is that WDF and the powers to be setup these rotations. I am just a lowly peon. I do not want to start stepping on toes. Yes, a few people did bitch. But a few more also were happy with the change. Next time I'll just kick it to a vote.. No biggie.
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Fair enough - thanks for the reply. Doesn't take but two seconds to start a vote even if only a couple people complain - maybe other people feel like it but just aren't in a mood to say anything.
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Rank: The Illuminist

Groups: Administration
Joined: 5/8/2006 Posts: 8,410 Points: 2,875 Location: Seattle
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Always great to see new faces voicing their opinions. That's what this place is about. It's also nice that the trolls haven't rampaged you yet. Anyway, I appreciate your opinion greatly... unfortunately I can't please everyone all the time. I will look into a map skip vote that could happen at the beginning of each map. That might be possible. Unfortunately a lot of people do like 2fort, so I will be leaving it on #1 for now. I hope you can continue to enjoy the servers.
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It was really cool tonight we had an admin (targetpractice i believe) do a mapskip vote,. It worked out really nice and i think people were happy, although we were flamed pretty hard for even bringing the idea up, people just didn't believe us that it could happen or wasn't against the rules to be done. The map rotations are pretty damn good the way they are, but some certain ones do get old fast and the vote thing seems to be a nice solution. Im glad you guys took it into consideration.
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Rank: Polio Power!

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, WDFNews.com Official Mapper
Joined: 5/10/2006 Posts: 666 Points: 54 Location: Mapping hell
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Note 1 thats shotly after the skip the server crashed
2 when the 2nd vote as made the server lost 1/2 its players
3 the name of the server is Tempest 1 Official Maps Rotation if 2 fort was on longer running the server wound have to be renamed Yes its time again to Play WTF did Murdy Just type Robot Hell is real and i cant spell yes im dyslexic WDF? wrote:lol fuck you, Murdy. BadHorsie wrote: I love it!
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Rank: The Illuminist

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Joined: 5/8/2006 Posts: 8,410 Points: 2,875 Location: Seattle
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Crashed? And Murdy, we need to work on your grammar. 
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Rank: Polio Power!

Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, WDFNews.com Official Mapper
Joined: 5/10/2006 Posts: 666 Points: 54 Location: Mapping hell
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LoL no way
read my sig =P Yes its time again to Play WTF did Murdy Just type Robot Hell is real and i cant spell yes im dyslexic WDF? wrote:lol fuck you, Murdy. BadHorsie wrote: I love it!
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