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Murdy
#1 Posted: : Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:16:42 AM
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yes time again to ask for you guys not to stack the teams and ALL getting on one side this will clear the server out

this is why the servers have been DEAD no one want to play on a server where they konw that one taem is aways going to have the same good players on the same team night after night

your killing the servers stop it

 

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#2 Posted: : Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:10:42 PM
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Murdy wrote:

yes time again to ask for you guys not to stack the teams and ALL getting on one side this will clear the server out

this is why the servers have been DEAD no one want to play on a server where they konw that one taem is aways going to have the same good players on the same team night after night

your killing the servers stop it

 

When you choose teams, just hit the random selection.  It's just as fun and more challenging to play against a mix of new and experienced players

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#3 Posted: : Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:29:52 PM
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Isn't there an admin function that scrambles the teams?
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#4 Posted: : Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:54:04 PM
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Razor wrote:
Isn't there an admin function that scrambles the teams?

it wound be nice if they there on

Yes its time again to Play WTF did Murdy Just type
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#5 Posted: : Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:19:33 PM
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super and i always change to the losing team, but people just dont want to do that man. Last time  i was playing with 6 completely new players on avanti who had no idea how to play while the other team had all the BBQs and a couple PDS guys. After asking to change up teams all i got was mocked and pretty much ridiculed, i guess it was just their chance to dominate me or something. Needless to say the server died out about 15 minutes in.


oh this is daniel btw.


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#6 Posted: : Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:18:50 AM
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eh, the time with daniel was just a fluke......and the way he was getting angry and calling us less than pleasing names somehow made it less imperative to apease him.

 

 The recent time with murdy was just sorta shoddy. Originally I join in a game, team is stacked one way. I join the opposite, couple of peeps I regularly game with join over to the team that was losing. This team continues to lose, so the "stack" was not helping us. What sucked was when the next map came up and the opposing teams top players were now grouped in with what had been a mini-stack. The stack of wdf affiliated folks was four peeps. I enjoy playing same team with these peeps not for the added fun in gaming terms, but for the sake that we can talk about giant donkey iceicles while getting fragged/fragging. In this case, the ideal would have been for one or all of us to jump to the opposing team. Four people making a switch is tricky, we didn't do it quick enough, instead we ran through a round of dustbowl. After that, murdy left, I left, and I think another left. So yes, for one round we failed as community members to properly ensure the balance of the game.

 I'll happily accept the responsibilty that I could have done better to be a better member of the group. At the same time, I'll also point out that there were other pDs in the game on the opposing team and there is no way I will ever consider one person more unbalanced then the next, with the exception of a few of the top ten. However, the current top hlstats listing is made up of both those who are extremely skilled, Leon Switch *vomints*, but also those who have simply continued to play the servers such as Ed. No way will I ever compensate stacking by presuming that one pDs member doesn't "count" as equally as another, except for those who hack like certain people, WDF.

 

 So yea, you got the short stick for that bit murdy and you are the better man for refusing to add the stack.

 As far as the shuffle, i'd be done for it if it was total random teamswap out, but it may not be the best for all situations, especially if we're getting groups of non-temp regs to come into the server. These folks want to stack as playing with a group of friends is far more enjoyable than not, especially with a mic operating.

daniel
#7 Posted: : Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:19:05 PM
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ahhhh_crap wrote:

eh, the time with daniel was just a fluke......and the way he was getting angry and calling us less than pleasing names somehow made it less imperative to apease him.

 




Names? You mean the word respect?

Here i'll give you one by me that might fit your description.
2008-06-17 16:41:13 Say I said "didnt know you guys were douchebags but alright haha". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
Everything by me is on page 5-6 i think of chat history, the day is 6-17.



Or Maybe you got it confused. Because here is your chat history in response to me asking what's with the teams.

2008-06-17 16:53:44 Say I said "please bear with us while we continue to poke the wounded beast". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:53:36
Say I said "this is causing some grief". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:48:00 Say I said "if we teach them what to do, it won't make daniel angry". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:46:46 Say I said "we should keep poking daniel". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:46:42
Say I said "I think they have no clue what they're doing". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:43:37 Say I said "danielle?". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:42:39 Say I said "we should all make gay slures towards daniel". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:27:08 Say I said "team bbq is gonna own you". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:27:00
Say I said "mister 3-1 ktd". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:24:47
Say I said "build your shit so we can go be productive". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:24:23
Say I said "secret 2, the underwear does not". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:24:14
Say I said "secret 1, ladies clothing fits daniel well".
2008-06-17 16:40:03 Say I said "anyone else notice daniel doesn't have top frag?". The Tempest #1 Official Maps
2008-06-17 16:38:46
Say I said "mostly we're laughing at your angst". The Tempest #1 Official Maps


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#8 Posted: : Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:51:56 PM
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Yes, a team scramble thing would be the ticket.
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#9 Posted: : Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:26:36 PM
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This is a serious discussion. Please keep on topic, and keep the side discussions to PMs.
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#10 Posted: : Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:58:04 PM
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it does have to do with the topic. I mention regulars who at a time stacked and in turn killed the servers, contributing to the problem of no traffic.


So.... yeah.


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#11 Posted: : Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:25:49 AM
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How would a team scramble work though? If it just going to randomly shuffle the teams, anyone interested can just crash spectate, wait for auto-balance, and essentially rejoin up the team. Now I'm all for the thing, I just see it under that understanding as being an added angst causing device for the sorta regs that I would suppose are enjoyed. Naturally a newer player would not understand this so much or be as concerned, but wouldn't the newer player also not as likely be contributing to the stack?

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#12 Posted: : Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:06:11 AM
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So Murdy, are you asking us not to play on teams with our friends?  Because the only reason I play this GAME is to have fun and be with friends, now I respect what you are trying to do and I am all for it, but you have to realize that no matter what, people tend to join teams with people they know, and just because a team may have a bunch of pDs or whatever, it doesn't mean they are going to win.  I've been on teams that had high ranked players on it (ed, sam, mccheese, etc) and we were completely owned by a well-coordinated group of non-regulars.  I've realized that if your team is getting whooped, complaining about it just makes it worse and may result in rage quits, look around your team, try to help them, be a class your team needs and not just something you play all the time, or ask politely for some help, quite frankly, some of the things people have said were very rude, and that doesn't make people want to join your team.  I will, however, try to be more aware of this problem in the future, just take it easy, its a freakin GAME!
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#13 Posted: : Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:31:44 AM
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Docta BBQ wrote:
So Murdy, are you asking us not to play on teams with our friends?  Because the only reason I play this GAME is to have fun and be with friends, now I respect what you are trying to do and I am all for it, but you have to realize that no matter what, people tend to join teams with people they know, and just because a team may have a bunch of pDs or whatever, it doesn't mean they are going to win.  I've been on teams that had high ranked players on it (ed, sam, mccheese, etc) and we were completely owned by a well-coordinated group of non-regulars.  I've realized that if your team is getting whooped, complaining about it just makes it worse and may result in rage quits, look around your team, try to help them, be a class your team needs and not just something you play all the time, or ask politely for some help, quite frankly, some of the things people have said were very rude, and that doesn't make people want to join your team.  I will, however, try to be more aware of this problem in the future, just take it easy, its a freakin GAME!
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#14 Posted: : Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:23:43 AM
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This topic has been brought up  time and time again and nothing ever happens. Same stuff is always said, but i wanna play with my friends so we can own you guys. I hate it, and just because people are pDs or any other clan name doesnt mean if they get on the same team its stacked. But clearly if your team has just rolled the other team whether its made up of random noobs or all pDs or any other clan, it sucks for the other team and they start leaving. Do something about it, and we do have players who do. Also if you just lost 1 or 2 games but they took damn near the time limit or it was a long fight over it, that isnt getting rolled. But geez playing against your friends can be fun too, split up sometimes. Daniel, Leon, War, i think they are the best examples of people who will switch teams right away if the other team is getting rolled. I have learned a long time ago when i made this exact same post and everyones answer was i wanna play with my friends, or i wanna play with people i know have  a mic or other stupid excuses of why they need to stack teams, to just play thru or leave the stack/ownage and hope for better on the next map, but it does tend to kill the servers or at least go through alot of people who quit.
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#15 Posted: : Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:54:40 PM
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I think that the stacking issues comes down to different types of players that we have on the servers.  There are people that play for the sake of completing the game objectives, and people that play for the sake of killing and just doing anything else.  Sometimes a team will always stay stacked because there will be those people that will do what they want because they can.

I was playing Goldrush the other day and it was surprising to see how many people walk by a clear cart and go off to kill others that are no where close to them.  It's never a surprise to see how many engineers will go into the sewers when it's not really necessary in 2fort.  People stacking on pyros?  achievements.  There are countless reasons teams will not be even, and I'd give it a very little percentage for it being skill-related.  This is the side-effect to a public server with a lot of people.

However, yes, a randomizer may be helpful.  I think more people playing to complete the objectives would be better, though.
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