When you hit auto-assign button, you're getting the shuffle effect. Generally teams are stacked due to two reasons: people join up with people they know are good, or people happen to be shuffled together who are good. You can't change the fact that shuffle won't always work because it will never be a perfect distribution, but auto-assigning is the closest alternative. I have hardly ever seen the case in which there are less players on the winning team. It's generally the losing team where players are lacking because they rage quit. And in the event that the winning team has less players but are kicking ass, what do you expect them to do? If a team is dominating with less players then you can't do too much because you can't switch sides. The only thing you can do is resort to the less-than-perfect scramble feature which may or may not solve the issue. I don't know what point you're trying to make in that respect.

The only thing I can think of that would be the closest to preventing issues like this are the team shuffles after each round. However, that would probably piss just as many people off as team stacking does.

And Dark: I don't think this is an issue that hasn't been focused on in terms fo fixing, but it's more of the fact that you can't easily fix this issue. There are so many factors that can contrbute to why teams are stacked, whether it's intentional stacking, shitty scrambling, skill distribution, class distribution etc., that the only way you can insure teams won't be stacked would be to hand-pick teams captain style. However, even that won't work because there will always be a percentage of players that we don't know are good or bad until we see them play.

We could lower the threshold on !votescramble to 45% rather than the 65% it currently requires. I think that would fix stack issues.

I also saw a wicked cool plugin that lets you pick a balance buddy. So if you get auto balanced or a scramble occurs, you still stick with your partner.

It's also worth asking if this is a problem that Lead actually has with our server, or if he's doing the half-joke thing like with [CMS] "stealing" {pDs} members.

Admins have direct access to immediate scrambling. We often don't use it unless we feel it's direly required ( think 5-1 steamrolling )

All in all, quitcherbitchin. The servers gets more traffic now than I've seen since I first joined.

way to go.

no this isn't a joke, believe me I love being on the winning team, and I almost always join whatever team drakhen's on (because he's the funnest to play with) but sometimes it gets ridiculous. One person can't change it.

And this is a very real problem with our server. Know those people that ragequit when they get rolled? Potential community members and donors are getting scared away.

Yeah, then we need an unbiased shuffle feature.