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GreyWolf wrote:Razor wrote:
I was just repeating what I have heard anyone with half a brain say. Sorry if it offended you. Tell Ms. Rosalyn I said hello.
Yeah, I guess you can only understand those people with half a brain....us full brained people use far to complicated sentences for you to understand. Besides, repeating what people with only 1/2 a brain say is not a good idea. It might also be good to, you know, actually look up and understand why people say that as opposed to just repeating the bullshit that's fed to you from the pundits on either side.
So other than sky high interest rates, increasing inflation, increasing unemployment rate, gas shortages, etc. I guess he was alright.
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Im not officially entering this discussion....but Carter has to make the top ten somewhere.
Fillmore, or Buchanan were the absolute worst.
Razor was atleast alive to remember carter, graywolf...so I don't think you have much to stand on as far as calling him half brained. Just being devil's advocate here, but you have little ground to stand on since you are just reading P.O.V's of that era yourself.
Additionally, your quote
Greywolf wrote:us full brained people use far to complicated sentences for you to understand.
you used the incorrect form of to. The correct form in this usage would be "too". As in: It's too complicated to write a correct sentance nowadays...
ZIng! Grammar NAZI! Whatcha gonna do Furball?! 
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Yeah...I was writing that at the library while sitting through a seminar....so yeah.....my mistake, besides I'm TOO lazy to proofread.... And I never called him half brained, he called himself half brained. I also never said Carter was a good president, but there are so many better options up there......Both Bush's come to mind, I would tend to lean towards Garfield and Harrison as both of them fail at even staying alive. Buchanan, Harding, Pierce, Tyler, Johnson, Fillmore all come before Carter on a NYT poll in 2005. Suffers from the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush
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I would also like to point out that McCain was a bad pilot, even according to his own biography...."The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries."
It's true. He admitted to not reading the manual. He almost died one time when it crashed, because he had no idea where the ejection control mechanism was. He had to pry the canopy off, and just barely did so. If you support John McCain and/or George W. Bush, please click here.“I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.” - Ben Bernanke
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Razor wrote:
So other than sky high interest rates, increasing inflation, increasing unemployment rate, gas shortages, etc. I guess he was alright.
The President does not control any of those things lol. You wanna take this to Fuck Town?
Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Business wrote:Razor wrote:
So other than sky high interest rates, increasing inflation, increasing unemployment rate, gas shortages, etc. I guess he was alright.
The President does not control any of those things lol. Nobody "controls" them, but many things can influence them - including the government. Our economy is so sensitive that even a speech could send people on a buying/selling frenzy that could potentially affect the economy.
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BadHorsie wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:BadHorsie wrote:
Razor wrote:No politician ever comes out and says what he will do. Obama said in his interview that the reason he won't get specific is he does not want to tip his hand. Why can't McCain be doing the same thing. I like how you quoted Jimmy Carter, probably the worst President we have ever had? Remember the gas shortage? The sky high interest rates? The Iranian hostage situation and the embarrassing rescue attempt? If you want credibility then don't quote him.
No, that would be Bush. Both of them
And the quote isn't about Carter, or how I feel about him. It's just funny he thinks that McCain always talks about his being a PoW, no matter what the question. As if he deserves to be President because of it.
Guy - "So how was your dinner?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have dinner"
Guy - "So how was your day? Good, I hope?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have good days"
You get the idea.
All I'm saying is that we need to change how we've done things as a country. First, we were all pissed off about Bush rather stealing the election, being the first President to be appointed by the US Supreme Court, who has members that decided the outcome placed on the Court by his dad. Nevermind that. Point is, many people were pissed by it.
So to change things, what do we do? We vote him in office the next time.
Now we've had eight years of this. EIGHT. People are pissed! What is it? Like 24% approval rating? Don't tell me you are one of those few. The lobbyists, etc. Forget that. Point is, we all agree Bush is a horrible President in at least one way or another. I mean, most of the world agrees.
So how do we change it this time? Voting for someone who thinks very highly of Bush, voted with him over 91% of the time, supports his plans, etc etc etc etc? I think maybe it's time for a change. The change, would be a democratic option. Sorry there isn't another option.
But, you know, it doesn't sound so bad. People bad mouth Clinton, but that's mostly republicans, or democrats (or independants) who don't follow politics, or just rather believe the republican slander, or... whatever. Not important. The point there, is that most of the world liked Clinton. He was not a bad President. Compared to both Bush Presidents? You cannot say, and keep a straight face, that he was worse.
So you have a bad (or two) republican President(s), and a good democrat President --
McCain preaches the same thing as Bush did too. The whole republican party - Fear.
Clinton said waaay before this (Gore campaign I think?) that if you have one candidate preaching hope and another preaching fear, you better vote for hope. I dont know about you, but I'd rather choose the candidate preaching hope and who is in a party that has more good for America and the world than trying to line his pockets with money.
I might also add that as a person, I like McCain. I feel bad for him being a PoW. I don't like how he treated his ex-wife, but that's not my concern. But, generally speaking, I like the guy. He can be funny. Loved his "Bomb Iran" song parody. I do not like his politics, however.
Obama: "I'm black. Vote for me or you're a racist." So why didn't Clinton go after Osama?
1) Obama has never played the race card. In fact, he doesn't like it. His critics seem to agree.
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"Nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face," Obama said Wednesday in Springfield, Missouri. "So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/campaign.wrap/index.html 
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It's called playing the race card with it still up your sleeve...his " i know i dont fit the pedigree...." comment at the DNC was the same thing. I dont really give a crap though....I have nothing against a woman or black or asian or eskimo president.
with respect to approval ratings...since Bush's is thrown out every time somebody wants to show how piss poor everything is...
I hate hearing about approval ratings because we basically all are disapproving of our entire government. Not just the current president. The democrats control congress and thier approval rating is 9% (I think that it is basically down to just friends and families of the officials actually approving). To me that is the bigger problem. (the approval rating caused by partisan politics and lobby control...not the democrats). They haven't even submitted thier budgets yet! and here they go drawing out stalemate votes or delaying the agenda until thier vacation comes up in 3 weeks...then they will pull the same shit and tell us all they will get to work and really knock some stuff out after break. Yeah, right. I couldnt find any data on a worse approval rating for congress in history.
McCain or Obama....most of the crap they promise us is with the assumption congress will play along....and they wont for the most part..
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Rikaelus wrote:Business wrote:Razor wrote:
So other than sky high interest rates, increasing inflation, increasing unemployment rate, gas shortages, etc. I guess he was alright.
The President does not control any of those things lol. Nobody "controls" them, but many things can influence them - including the government. Our economy is so sensitive that even a speech could send people on a buying/selling frenzy that could potentially affect the economy. Orly? I had no idea. By Razors logic I say that Lincoln was the worst president ever. Civil War, largest loss of life on American soil. It's a no-brainer. You wanna take this to Fuck Town?
Oh gadzooks, yes!
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Business wrote:Rikaelus wrote:Business wrote:Razor wrote:
So other than sky high interest rates, increasing inflation, increasing unemployment rate, gas shortages, etc. I guess he was alright.
The President does not control any of those things lol. Nobody "controls" them, but many things can influence them - including the government. Our economy is so sensitive that even a speech could send people on a buying/selling frenzy that could potentially affect the economy. Orly? I had no idea. By Razors logic I say that Lincoln was the worst president ever. Civil War, largest loss of life on American soil. It's a no-brainer. His approval rating was incredibly low if you go by what was written about him at the time.
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RichardAwesome wrote:BadHorsie wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:BadHorsie wrote:
Razor wrote:No politician ever comes out and says what he will do. Obama said in his interview that the reason he won't get specific is he does not want to tip his hand. Why can't McCain be doing the same thing. I like how you quoted Jimmy Carter, probably the worst President we have ever had? Remember the gas shortage? The sky high interest rates? The Iranian hostage situation and the embarrassing rescue attempt? If you want credibility then don't quote him.
No, that would be Bush. Both of them
And the quote isn't about Carter, or how I feel about him. It's just funny he thinks that McCain always talks about his being a PoW, no matter what the question. As if he deserves to be President because of it.
Guy - "So how was your dinner?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have dinner"
Guy - "So how was your day? Good, I hope?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have good days"
You get the idea.
All I'm saying is that we need to change how we've done things as a country. First, we were all pissed off about Bush rather stealing the election, being the first President to be appointed by the US Supreme Court, who has members that decided the outcome placed on the Court by his dad. Nevermind that. Point is, many people were pissed by it.
So to change things, what do we do? We vote him in office the next time.
Now we've had eight years of this. EIGHT. People are pissed! What is it? Like 24% approval rating? Don't tell me you are one of those few. The lobbyists, etc. Forget that. Point is, we all agree Bush is a horrible President in at least one way or another. I mean, most of the world agrees.
So how do we change it this time? Voting for someone who thinks very highly of Bush, voted with him over 91% of the time, supports his plans, etc etc etc etc? I think maybe it's time for a change. The change, would be a democratic option. Sorry there isn't another option.
But, you know, it doesn't sound so bad. People bad mouth Clinton, but that's mostly republicans, or democrats (or independants) who don't follow politics, or just rather believe the republican slander, or... whatever. Not important. The point there, is that most of the world liked Clinton. He was not a bad President. Compared to both Bush Presidents? You cannot say, and keep a straight face, that he was worse.
So you have a bad (or two) republican President(s), and a good democrat President --
McCain preaches the same thing as Bush did too. The whole republican party - Fear.
Clinton said waaay before this (Gore campaign I think?) that if you have one candidate preaching hope and another preaching fear, you better vote for hope. I dont know about you, but I'd rather choose the candidate preaching hope and who is in a party that has more good for America and the world than trying to line his pockets with money.
I might also add that as a person, I like McCain. I feel bad for him being a PoW. I don't like how he treated his ex-wife, but that's not my concern. But, generally speaking, I like the guy. He can be funny. Loved his "Bomb Iran" song parody. I do not like his politics, however.
Obama: "I'm black. Vote for me or you're a racist." So why didn't Clinton go after Osama?
1) Obama has never played the race card. In fact, he doesn't like it. His critics seem to agree.
2)
"Nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face," Obama said Wednesday in Springfield, Missouri. "So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/campaign.wrap/index.html
This is better? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml If you support John McCain and/or George W. Bush, please click here.“I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.” - Ben Bernanke
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BadHorsie wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:BadHorsie wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:BadHorsie wrote:
Razor wrote:No politician ever comes out and says what he will do. Obama said in his interview that the reason he won't get specific is he does not want to tip his hand. Why can't McCain be doing the same thing. I like how you quoted Jimmy Carter, probably the worst President we have ever had? Remember the gas shortage? The sky high interest rates? The Iranian hostage situation and the embarrassing rescue attempt? If you want credibility then don't quote him.
No, that would be Bush. Both of them
And the quote isn't about Carter, or how I feel about him. It's just funny he thinks that McCain always talks about his being a PoW, no matter what the question. As if he deserves to be President because of it.
Guy - "So how was your dinner?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have dinner"
Guy - "So how was your day? Good, I hope?"
McCain - "You know when I was a PoW, we didn't have good days"
You get the idea.
All I'm saying is that we need to change how we've done things as a country. First, we were all pissed off about Bush rather stealing the election, being the first President to be appointed by the US Supreme Court, who has members that decided the outcome placed on the Court by his dad. Nevermind that. Point is, many people were pissed by it.
So to change things, what do we do? We vote him in office the next time.
Now we've had eight years of this. EIGHT. People are pissed! What is it? Like 24% approval rating? Don't tell me you are one of those few. The lobbyists, etc. Forget that. Point is, we all agree Bush is a horrible President in at least one way or another. I mean, most of the world agrees.
So how do we change it this time? Voting for someone who thinks very highly of Bush, voted with him over 91% of the time, supports his plans, etc etc etc etc? I think maybe it's time for a change. The change, would be a democratic option. Sorry there isn't another option.
But, you know, it doesn't sound so bad. People bad mouth Clinton, but that's mostly republicans, or democrats (or independants) who don't follow politics, or just rather believe the republican slander, or... whatever. Not important. The point there, is that most of the world liked Clinton. He was not a bad President. Compared to both Bush Presidents? You cannot say, and keep a straight face, that he was worse.
So you have a bad (or two) republican President(s), and a good democrat President --
McCain preaches the same thing as Bush did too. The whole republican party - Fear.
Clinton said waaay before this (Gore campaign I think?) that if you have one candidate preaching hope and another preaching fear, you better vote for hope. I dont know about you, but I'd rather choose the candidate preaching hope and who is in a party that has more good for America and the world than trying to line his pockets with money.
I might also add that as a person, I like McCain. I feel bad for him being a PoW. I don't like how he treated his ex-wife, but that's not my concern. But, generally speaking, I like the guy. He can be funny. Loved his "Bomb Iran" song parody. I do not like his politics, however.
Obama: "I'm black. Vote for me or you're a racist." So why didn't Clinton go after Osama?
1) Obama has never played the race card. In fact, he doesn't like it. His critics seem to agree.
2)
"Nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face," Obama said Wednesday in Springfield, Missouri. "So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/31/campaign.wrap/index.html
This is better? http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
Didn't make a judgment on what was good or not. Simply pointed out that Obama has pulled the race card when you said he never did.
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Fair enough. So he did so last wednesday. I haven't heard until now. :P
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