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#31 Posted: : Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:09:52 PM
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i laugh at the ones who do not have halos. I laugh hard.


Me too

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#32 Posted: : Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:15:14 PM
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I still think this is fucking ridiculous. I'm not playing Final Fantasy XI or any other MMO and praying for a peacock charm to drop. I'm playing a goddamn FPS. The only difference now is that I can't do work on my computer while idleing but w/e. I also don't get why people are getting on their high horse about a halo. It sure as hell doesn't make you a better player.

BTW the 4.5 % is misleading. I believe they were including everyone who ever bought the Orange Box and those who no longer played. I reckon that if they took the current number of players it would be closer to 1/3.
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#33 Posted: : Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:16:04 PM
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I find it kind of funny that I only idled for four days straight (when not playing) after the classless update in an attempt to find a new hat before heading back to school and from that short time my account was flagged for cheating and I lost a huge number of (zero) items because I had it set to auto-delete any new duplicates. Nice. And I heard they again nerfed the soldier indirectly by yet again increasing the damage/effectiveness of bullet weapons. I guess Valve's up to its usual mess :O!
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#34 Posted: : Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:44:15 PM
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I do think its funny when you have spys running around cloaked with thier halos glowing for a free kill.


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#35 Posted: : Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:47:17 PM
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Fat Pigeon wrote:
I find it kind of funny that I only idled for four days straight (when not playing) after the classless update in an attempt to find a new hat before heading back to school and from that short time my account was flagged for cheating and I lost a huge number of (zero) items because I had it set to auto-delete any new duplicates. Nice. And I heard they again nerfed the soldier indirectly by yet again increasing the damage/effectiveness of bullet weapons. I guess Valve's up to its usual mess :O!


Increasing damage and effectiveness of a weapon nerfs the soldier? That's something. Soldier's do carry a hitscan weapon.
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#36 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 10:18:07 AM
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anyway, i beleive the halo looks gay, so i am just happy that ill never have it. i am not mad // not happy about that halo thing...i did run the idle, but never found anything, and i still dont get why valve makes a drop system, its not going to make people to play more...at least i HOPE you are not playing all night long just to get a useless hat... and that you just play this game to have fun.
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#37 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 11:39:32 AM
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I laugh at those who did get an ugly halo and are still idling today in a server! http://imgur.com/6Vg1v.png
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#38 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 12:59:45 PM
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There is clearly nothing wrong with idling. There is clearly everything wrong with using external applications. Valve mentioned before that they had zero problems with people farming for achievements back when it was achievement only, but using software to aid in getting the achievements is not the same since you get them in exchange for nothing whereas farming you still have to fulfill the requirements. Idling is on a finer line, but Valve made a clear distinction that the line was the use of external applications as stated in their blog.

People are turning this into some sort of moral righteous issue - perhaps a bit understandable since Valve made hats and profiled people as cheaters and non-cheaters. However, it's all based on definitions and technicalities. There are things you can and cannot do and Valve has defined them. You either do them their way or you get punished - they're the developers, they make the rules. Sorry.
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#39 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 2:18:54 PM
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Saber (Wu) wrote:
I laugh at those who did get an ugly halo and are still idling today in a server! http://imgur.com/6Vg1v.png




srsly, people need to get over it, why bring it up if you "don't care"
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#40 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 2:27:33 PM
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Saber (Wu) wrote:
I laugh at those who did get an ugly halo and are still idling today in a server! http://imgur.com/6Vg1v.png


I am gonna laugh harder when those guys who think its cute to still run the idle program after this whole cleansing thing are going to have every single one of thier unlocks taken away from them. Valve stated that future use of unauthorized programs will result in ALL your items taken away...even the ones legitimately gotten.

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#41 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 2:39:08 PM
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Fat Pigeon wrote:
I find it kind of funny that I only idled for four days straight (when not playing) after the classless update in an attempt to find a new hat before heading back to school and from that short time my account was flagged for cheating


So is that like the five second rule? If you only cheat for 4 days straight you shouldn't be labeled a cheater? LoL.
We punish by intent. You intended to circumvent the system by which players are awarded hats by using a third party program to do so. It doesnt matter that it took you 5 minutes or 5 years....you are still cheating because of intent. I realize you don't care because it didnt actually hurt you with the deletion of zero items, but I would caution you that in school, if you get caught looking on someone elses paper, even for 5 seconds...you arent going to be able to claim that the timeframe wasn't long enough to benefit from. YOu are just going to be expelled (in college..dunno how old you are) because of your intent to cheat.

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#42 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 2:40:41 PM
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Giller [GwDR wrote:
]I am gonna laugh harder when those guys who think its cute to still run the idle program after this whole cleansing thing are going to have every single one of thier unlocks taken away from them. Valve stated that future use of unauthorized programs will result in ALL your items taken away...even the ones legitimately gotten.



honestly i couldnt care less....the only one i am using is the blutsauger....wait...i am never playing medic...thats right. as long as they dont ban peoples steam id...they are going to get by-passed...its like it....they tryed to set up a VAC anti-cheat....but there are cheaters on every server.

honestly, i prefer idle cheater than ingame cheats.
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#43 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 3:17:02 PM
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Giller [GwDR wrote:
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It doesnt matter that it took you 5 minutes or 5 years....you are still cheating because of intent.


Let's get this straight broz. Valve didn't fight back because it's 'cheating'. Valve fought back because they felt threatened by a third-party software outside of their control. The idler's popularity suggested that Valve's decisions regarding the drops were no longer necessary.

Valve fears that one day players will no longer come to the basic TF2 system for its drops, but instead resort to outside parties.

Not a moral issue.
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#44 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39:37 PM
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Leon Switch wrote:
Let's get this straight broz. Valve didn't fight back because it's 'cheating'. Valve fought back because they felt threatened by a third-party software outside of their control. The idler's popularity suggested that Valve's decisions regarding the drops were no longer necessary.

Valve fears that one day players will no longer come to the basic TF2 system for its drops, but instead resort to outside parties.

Not a moral issue.

If that was entirely true they wouldnt allow programs like sourcemod and the like.

You are right...its not a morality issue. Its an property life cycle issue. They are designing these things and designing in some level of rarity, as a means to extend the life of the game in interest in playing. If people are allowed to design and use programs that circumvent that goal...then they (valve) are not getting the same bang for thier buck in longevity and interest in their product. In any event, it still Cheating the system they have in place.

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#45 Posted: : Friday, September 04, 2009 3:44:05 PM
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I never introduced the fake-idle program to the clan. Fact.


I idled, and got my gained items taken away from me, but I didn't get a motherfucking Halo! Im gutted!


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