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endyss wrote:I voted to unban him because while I don't at all agree with what he said and understand how any Jewish person might take offense at it, the very definition of free speech is the right to say things that others might disagree with or be offended by.
I also realize that this being a private community and not a function of the U.S. government, First Amendment protection isn't technically applicable, and we can ban whomever we like for whatever reason. However, that whole Constitution thing generally laid out some good principles and reasons for them, so unless someone is doing something on the forums that rises to the level of the real world "yelling 'Fire' in a crowded theater," I would stand firmly behind a policy that allows anyone to say anything. Those who do not like it can ignore it or, even better, rebut it and make clear their displeasure. All we have on these forums is our reputations, so let any man soil his as he likes.
To reiterate what I stated in the thread that started all this, silencing ErkDog because what he said offended some people is the height of political correctness.
I know, right? I mean, why can't we just degrade and belittle any race or ethnicticity whenever we want? It's a constitutional right to tell someone they shouldn't be allowed to use a water fountain because of their skin color. People in turbans are most likely terrorists, and a true god fearing american should make that clear, as it is his or her right to. And just like Erkdog all jews fit that sterotype to a T, so why not yell it to the world from your basement. Iggnorance is a happy place for some people I guess.
Personally, I don't care what he posted because it wasn't relevant to much of anything, like most of his lame posts. He didn't offend me, and I'm almost positive that he didn't offend most people here. While this has never been a place to advocate hate of any kind, I think this is more of a... cleaning up the trash of the community. You made the right decision by banning him. I say keep it that way.
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I think he only has diarrhea of the mouth when people he knows have issues with him are on. I was playing with him few a couple hours last night where DARREN! and I were the only regulars in temp 5, and he said nothing but game-talk (ie sentry at B, uber pyro coming, etc). I'll admit I've been mad and said things I regret later so I can sympathize up to a point, maybe some people that are on good terms with him could explain why some things are better left unsaid, but at the same time, this seems to be a server with a more family-friendly atmpsphere (as we kill eachother) so I can understand why the hammer was slammed down. :D McCheese wrote:I've always said all women are 2 drinks away from full on lesbian action Lead Salad wrote:I never figured whut for a fairy..wait, yes, yes I did. Snipme wrote:erk cant have me my penis will annilihate his ass hole
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where erk is, christina isnt anymore, guess my vote
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So thats it? He got banned for saying he met a stereotype? Wow.... Regardless of what he has done before, the "final straw" that got him banned was telling a slightly comical story about a landlord. Come onnnnnn... I always have fun playing TF2 with him, he has a funny voice and is very vocal on the mic. He always goes after the objective tries to win, which I appreciate. Oldschooler extraordinaire
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It is kind of funny. I find Lead Salad and Brosnan to be FAR more offensive and they frolic unfettered. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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Oopsie wrote:It is kind of funny. I find Lead Salad and Brosnan to be FAR more offensive and they frolic unfettered. Meh, when Lead Salad trolls its usually to stir an argument and can back it with some sort of intelligent argument. Erk and Brosnan do it just to be douchefags. Being a troll myself I can't say that it is ban worthy, but if the whole community wanted him to be made an example of. Fuck that cockfag. Not The Face wrote:nate burn in hell asswipe Lead Salad wrote:And he promises to beat up any suspicious negroes and their children as well. Sirus touched me in my private message.
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I have one more comment to make, I have been around along time and have seen and done many stupid things, while I have not been as active in the forums I am still very interested in what the clan says and does. I remember a time that everyone was what they were, Even Hurley and the others. But I have just started back playing and I would have to say that in my short time back there are {pDs} members acting far worse towards other members and towards other players than some stupid ass stunt from Erk. I can go into a list if needed and we can review what people act like when playing a VIDEO GAME!!!! In closing... GROW UP everyone.... have a shot of tequila drink a beer call it good. done finished... I NEED A BEER 
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2008-10-01 12:38:25 Say I said "so he enabled team stackiing for ppl that give him money". The Tempest #3 Official/Custom M
2008-10-01 12:38:16 Say I said "loooool amazing". The Tempest #3 Official/Custom M
2008-10-01 12:37:42 Say I said "that's hitlerish". The Tempest #3 Official/Custom M
2008-10-01 12:37:39 Say I said "wtf, since when?". The Tempest #3 Official/Custom M
2008-10-01 12:36:52 Say I said "its 5 on 4...". The Tempest #3 Official/Custom M
2008-10-01 12:33:40 Say I said "what a jew".
Thats right out of erks chat log..
So which is it it?i s WDF hitler or a Jew he really cant be both
I say leave him gone its one less headache for us all ban him from the servers too. hes just a huge Doushe nozzle.(A dirty one). Doesnt matter to me I already wont play on the same server, and its easy for me to ignore him in here but for the record i did vote no.
Ignorance is bliss ...but only if your ignorant
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Oopsie wrote:It is kind of funny. I find Lead Salad and Brosnan to be FAR more offensive and they frolic unfettered. Your personal vendetta is not universal.
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People are just too sensitive now days to things that might be seen as offensive to someone other then themselfs, PC world sucks , A midget will always be a fucken midget i am never calling them a "little person" ... its a midget it doesn't change the fact that most people think Jews are much like the Ferengi of Star Trek. More interested in acquiring "profits" than anything else. -Erkdog
Shut the fuck up Frostbite, I know what i am doing i been playing TF2 for 8 fucking years i know how to run my damn servers-Erkdog
More pearls from Erkdog
I say we let him back on the forums.
lol epic
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Playing TF2 as "JEWS DID 9/11" is obviously done with a sense of irony, making a post that's basically "heh well I'm not racist or anything but I sure don't trust the Jews, YO TOTALLY NOT BEING RACIST THOUGH SO IT'S COOL RIGHT GUYS" is, obviously, not.
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leads and brosnans douchebaggery always brightens my day, erkdog makes me a sad panda In an hour of Darkness a blind man is the best guide. In an age of Insanity look to the madman to lead the way. 
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Brosnan wrote:Playing TF2 as "JEWS DID 9/11" is obviously done with a sense of irony, making a post that's basically "heh well I'm not racist or anything but I sure don't trust the Jews, YO TOTALLY NOT BEING RACIST THOUGH SO IT'S COOL RIGHT GUYS" is, obviously, not.
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IMO he should have stayed banned from the previous shit which he pulled. Its a little ironic that he got banned for something so small......I mean if we banned everyone who ever made a racial comment to get a lol, then there would be about 5 fucking members. So long Erk. Suffers from the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush
AKA
Bush Derangement Syndrome
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endyss wrote:I voted to unban him because while I don't at all agree with what he said and understand how any Jewish person might take offense at it, the very definition of free speech is the right to say things that others might disagree with or be offended by............ gal edit for kbits sake.......
My Act of Free Speech
Ya know... it seems the art of free speech has gone beyond reason... like the "n" word... so... let us be kind... speaking freely w/o insult... (I need to make billions of dollars writing a definitive book of what is politically correct)
I lubs you endyss... you are a verbage whore like GAL... ... are you in law school? ... my x (God love her) is a Superior Court Judge... your avatar looks a bit like her... and in-game you abuse me as she did... I love it....
PS... based on the vote... looks like there are some bridges burned... remember humility and honor troops... we ban strangers and execute traitors... rules is rules
PPS... oh yeah... my act of free speech and why I served in the army (notice lack of capitalization... an often overlooked residual symptom of Nam post traumatic stress syndrome) ... and I agree with WDF...y'all are a mystery.... and GreyWolf commented ending with... 5 members left?... hmmm... a thought... but where would I go?
So I am free to say Jesus is Lord... there... I am free... to be hated and loved... if that offends you... you may be in a dark room surrounded by overflowing ash trays, empty beer cans and need to shower 'cause your buttocks is raw... and please do so after picking up that week old pizza crust on the floor... and dispose of the 2 empty cases of cans... so you can do your annual vacuuming... and you thought no one saw you....
Hope that didn't offend anyone... to be loved and disciplined... soooo GO TO THE CRYPT Thurs night... (hl2dm for you nubs)... I love payback... and for some unknown reason.. I lubs you, little penguin chicklets...
PEACE
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