Saber (Wu) wrote:Which leads to the second point. Valve even said they didn't have a policy in place before. They just had that policy against 3rd party program 2 days ago. The policy went into effect and everyone didn't get a second chance to stop idling. "No cheating/exploiting" policy? How was it cheating in the first place when valve isn't going to stop idling from "achievement_idle". They "considered" it cheating? I'm considering you're all gay but that isn't true and you don't know if I changed my mind on you guys/girls. After the "considering" there really wasn't much of a warning to tell us to stop. Besides the achievement unlocker 3 months BEFORE the idler program was created.
What? The point Valve was making was that there is a restriction against using third-party programs, not idling. You know, just like that official interview in which Robin Walker stated that people farming achievements is fine, but using unlockers isn't? Just like that
blog post they made referring to banning unlocks for using third-party software to aid in getting the weapons? That was back in February, by the way.
As per their Steam Subscriber's Agreement:
Steam Subscriber's Agreement wrote:Steam and the Steam Software may include functionality designed to identify software or hardware processes or functionality that may give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions of any Steam Software, other Valve products, or modifications thereof ("Cheats"). You agree that you will not create or assist third parties in any way to create Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats. You acknowledge and agree that either Valve or any online multiplayer host may refuse to allow you to participate in certain online multiplayer games if you use Cheats in connection with Steam or the Steam Software. Further, you acknowledge and agree that an online multiplayer host may report your use of Cheats to Valve, and Valve may communicate your history of use of Cheats to other online multiplayer hosts for Valve products. Valve may terminate your Account or a particular Subscription for any conduct or activity that Valve believes is illegal, constitutes a Cheat, or which otherwise negatively affects the enjoyment of Steam by other Subscribers. You acknowledge that Valve is not required to provide you notice before terminating your Subscriptions(s) and/or Account, but it may choose to do so.
That doesn't seem like it was two days ago. I just don't understand it. How can people not understand after having their weapons taken away back in February from using external software to gain them is any different than using external software to gain them now?
Considering th0ey said back in February, "This time it seems a number of you used an external application to unlock all of your achievements in order to get items unfairly", I'd say that them stating in the latest post, "However, we need to draw the line at running external applications" is not a coincidence. In combination of the blog from months ago, the terms of service, and the obvious repeat of the same thing they said before, I don't know understand why people are protesting. You're right, it was three months before the idle program was made. Don't you think that's enough time to take in their attitude towards programs from before? They can't tell who has and hasn't done both the unlocker and the idle, or just one or the other. They shouldn't have to try either.
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