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But if such a drastic change is going to be made to how points are awarded as well as the requirements to start collecting them, then I would rather see my points reset to 0 and start over with everyone on a level playing field, then watch them "equalize" depressingly for two months.
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I agree with sunfox. Lets reset the rankings and initiate the new system.
Why are we still protecting this old system that has stagnated? There is no more god damn excitement! I want a battle for the top ranks....I want to know that maybe next week the no. 1 rank has been taken by a brilliant series of maps by another player!
But no this wont change....Why are we even paying for HLstats? Right now it really doesnt mean anything....Lets just save 20 bucks and freeze the rankings right now.
GET OFF YOUR ASSes AND WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN! BE BOLD!
Keep the min kills at 1500 or whatever, but bump the max cap loss to 1000.
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What if we removed the cap limit, but limited the victims point loss to .50?
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WDF? wrote:What if we removed the cap limit, but limited the victims point loss to .50? I had a really long post up in my browser with a rant about the system and such an this as one possible solution to alleviate the pain of a -1000 death, but I guess that's not needed now. If ANY change is made, this would be, for most people, I imagine, the most acceptable. It'll absolutely make scores skyrocket in the lower ranks, but it will "balance" things. On that note, what is this whiny crap about things being unbalanced as they are now? This is pretty much how things have been, at least since I started playing on the Tempest servers after my first favorite server shutdown. I know some small adjustments have been made, but everybody's had a chance to step up and those who played more took higher ranks. It makes sense.
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Seems most people feel this way judging by the poll numbers thus far. Personally I'd love to shake it up a bit... I'd love to see massive point losses and gains... Looking at the leaderboard is just boring since nothing ever moves. But whatever, your guys' call.
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i say it over again....reset every month... the only thing i hate about the point loss is....exemple... some noob sniper headshot me : boom he just made 55 points lets count....i make 5 points each time i kill him with an headshot...and 1 point for everytime i kill him.... 55 / 6 = 9.16666 i have to get 9.2 kdr againts a sniper to gain my points back ? totally stupid..... the thing is that hlstats ignore the KDR i beleive the points should be ajusted with something like : kill death ratio * hlstats points there you would get your real leader..... the ONLY problem with what i said....is for medics....
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Holy cow - if you reset them now, how many kills am I going to get before I start getting "regular" points now??? I'm down to something like 300 - and that's taken a LONG time!!  Belligerent Pimp wrote: The Man Society just suspended my man card for a week for getting rickrolled by Mrs. Mary Midwestern Housewife.
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Christina wrote:i say it over again....reset every month...
the only thing i hate about the point loss is....exemple...
some noob sniper headshot me : boom he just made 55 points
lets count....i make 5 points each time i kill him with an headshot...and 1 point for everytime i kill him....
55 / 6 = 9.16666
i have to get 9.2 kdr againts a sniper to gain my points back ? totally stupid.....
the thing is that hlstats ignore the KDR i beleive the points should be ajusted with something like :
kill death ratio * hlstats points
there you would get your real leader.....
the ONLY problem with what i said....is for medics....
I hear your concern. I'm not ignoring it. Once the current stat poll ends we'll poll for stat resets.
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Fat Pigeon wrote:
On that note, what is this whiny crap about things being unbalanced as they are now? This is pretty much how things have been, at least since I started playing on the Tempest servers after my first favorite server shutdown. I know some small adjustments have been made, but everybody's had a chance to step up and those who played more took higher ranks. It makes sense.
Yeah it just goes back to the 2 schools of thought.
The first being the current one..which basically correlates rank with time played.
the new system would move more toward player skill. yeah it would be more variable...but i think more fun.
Something should be done. If not this point system change...then the server stats reset every month or every quarter. But heh, we have had that poll before, and that discussion before.....
http://www.wdfnews.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=8059
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Dont know how much this will help but right now you reward people for kill streaks, which is usually a sign of skill maybe adjusting it so its not a linear track of 9 kills on one life is 8 pts but exponentially so the longer your survive and kill the more pts you get aka 1 kill no streak bonus 2 kills 1 steak bonus 3 kills 2 streak bonus 4 kills 4 streak bonus 5 kills 8 streak bonus ect... so that someone like sniper christina who has a higher kpd, can earn points more for being a better surviver
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Giller [GwDR wrote:]
The first being the current one..which basically correlates rank with time played.
Stop me if I am wrong but isn't that what we are after? More people playing longer, more often.
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Razor wrote:Giller [GwDR wrote:]
The first being the current one..which basically correlates rank with time played.
Stop me if I am wrong but isn't that what we are after? More people playing longer, more often.
Perhaps, but it must be a downer for new clan-mates or regulars to know that they are basically never going to get into the top 30 unless other players just stop playing and time out. Lovely people like titanium phoenix....she shall never feel the warm glow of being among the tempest elite unless she quits her job, doesn't go to school, and plays 10 hours a day. *sniffle* (tiny violin playing)
At some point doesn't it actually work against you when new persons to teh server see that they have climb an impossible mountain? And I hope none of the regulars would actually quit the community just because thier rank number was reset....thats just lame.
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Giller [GwDR wrote:Lovely people like titanium phoenix....she shall never feel the warm glow of being among the tempest elite unless she quits her job, doesn't go to school, and plays 10 hours a day. *sniffle* (tiny violin playing) Hey! If Ducktor BBQ wants to do all that it's up to him! HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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Any way to do both; have two instances of HLStats? Both versions have merit. One brightens the day of those who want to be good compared to everyone else, and the other brightens the day of those who have been with the community for a long time.
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Rikaelus wrote:Any way to do both; have two instances of HLStats?
Both versions have merit. One brightens the day of those who want to be good compared to everyone else, and the other brightens the day of those who have been with the community for a long time. what about if someone wants a good comunity for a long time ?
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