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Splinter
#31 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:49:03 AM
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fuck it, take the points and reset them. those who bitch about it slap em in the face.

ahhhh_crap wrote:
no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
youngrippark
#32 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:44:29 AM
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what a powderkeg of excitement!


Mt_Dew
#33 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:30:32 AM
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hax.sam.hall wrote:
points=time played, not skill [...]

Apparently so. I played quite a while yesterday afternoon... would gain 100 points killing like 20 people in a row, then loose it all in 30 seconds. I'm not a point whore, but subliminally I think I care. If the point system doesn't show skill (even though skill is an attribute in the stats page), what does it represent?

"Oooo, I has points!"
"What does that mean?"
"I don't know, but I has them!"

{pDs} Splinter wrote:
fuck it, take the points and reset them. those who bitch about it slap em in the face.

Good attitude. Alienate the player base.
Your argument: Fuck them, we can always get more players.
Our argument: Fuck them, we can always play on another server.
Win-win or lose-lose situation?


Deedz
#34 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:43:54 AM
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I cared about my score for about 2 days, then i gave up on it because some people had just insane amounts of points...something with my schedule i can't compete with.

The game is a lot more fun when you don't worry about the points and just have fun, as whats intended.



bitchmaker
#35 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:09:35 AM
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I personaly don't give a rats about points and play only for the fun of playing. I don't care who kills me and how many points I lose because of the death. To me it's stpid. I mean really, why do I care where I rank in an arbitrary ranking system amongst a whole buncha other players whom I realy don't know,  nor do I care to know. For you see i have something other than my points and rank on the server. It's called a life!

TF2 is a game. Games are meant to be played for fun. One's existance must be a pretty empty one to get off on how many points they have or where they rank. I mean cmon people GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as the dude who says he won't play on our servers anymore and will find another one to play. Good, go ahead jackass. Good luck finding another server that is as well run as ours. I hate it when fuckin people show up play for FRRE on a server that whut pays for out of pocket, and then complain.....FUCK YOU....Go the fuck away. There are always more mature people with a life who like to play on well run servers without immature jackasses who try to feel better about themselves by bragging about their meaningless points, rank ot skillz.....

{pDs}BelligerentPimp wrote:

No using the word "fucktard" unless you are refering to TonyRWC or Youngripark.j2.


WDF? wrote:
go fuck yourself hanukkah style.
Mt_Dew
#36 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:22:33 AM
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bitchmaker wrote:
I hate it when fuckin people show up play for FRRE on a server that whut pays for out of pocket, and then complain.....FUCK YOU....Go the fuck away.

And for those who donate? Don't use a templated response used throughout teh intartubes. I'm thinking about donating, but I want to make sure it's a good investment. You do understand what an investment is, right? I'd pay money to people who listens to the concerns of its player base, even if they aren't contributing to the coffers... yet. WDF seems to be doing a descent job treating everyone as if they are potential contributors, and that's good business practice.

Still, what do points mean? I put some sort of statistics in a magical black box and out comes a number. "...But what does it mean?"


WDF?
#37 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:27:00 AM
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I've come up with a plan after talking to Endyss....


Vote on it in the poll thread.

Business
#38 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:51:34 PM
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MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
Business wrote:
MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
a wise man once said: server stats are just a form of masturbation.


<---me


actually it was IamDonSharp and it was before you even started playing the servers.


<---me
You wanna take this to Fuck Town?
Oh gadzooks, yes!
MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled
#39 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:03:04 PM
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Business wrote:
MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
Business wrote:
MakeSureItsCharcoalGrilled wrote:
a wise man once said: server stats are just a form of masturbation.


<---me


actually it was IamDonSharp and it was before you even started playing the servers.


<---me


actually it was IamDonSharp and it was before you even started playing the servers.
yeah, i'm a cranky 'oul fucker. deal with it.
endyss
#40 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:51:51 PM
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bitchmaker wrote:

I personaly don't give a rats about points and play only for the fun of playing. I don't care who kills me and how many points I lose because of the death. To me it's stpid. I mean really, why do I care where I rank in an arbitrary ranking system amongst a whole buncha other players whom I realy don't know,  nor do I care to know. For you see i have something other than my points and rank on the server. It's called a life!

TF2 is a game. Games are meant to be played for fun. One's existance must be a pretty empty one to get off on how many points they have or where they rank. I mean cmon people GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as the dude who says he won't play on our servers anymore and will find another one to play. Good, go ahead jackass. Good luck finding another server that is as well run as ours. I hate it when fuckin people show up play for FRRE on a server that whut pays for out of pocket, and then complain.....FUCK YOU....Go the fuck away. There are always more mature people with a life who like to play on well run servers without immature jackasses who try to feel better about themselves by bragging about their meaningless points, rank ot skillz.....

Show me where I or anyone engaged in this discussion have bragged about their points or rank. If anything, the biggest mistake I ever made in wanting to improve the system was to demonstrate the problem of the medic kill assist by using its imbalance to raise my own score. It's opened me up to all sorts of attacks about being self-serving and "complaining" when I have no right to because I am ranked so highly.

Yes, this is a game, and certainly the points don't "matter." Neither does killing someone on the other team or capturing intel or a point, but we all still do it... because it's fun. I know some people with small brains may not think people can enjoy the competition of the point system and call that "fun" as well, but who the hell are you to tell those people their idea of fun is wrong? If players aren't meant to enjoy the HLSTATSX point system as much a diversion as the game itself, why even have it on the servers? Take it off and let those "stpid" "immature jackasses" that don't have a life go somewhere else. But if you keep it, you have no standing to insult those players, who are as completely legitimate on the servers as you, and tell them they should go elsewhere because they want to discuss one aspect of the game they are playing. It's the same as the other discussions about respawn times, conduct rules, and which custom maps should be included: it's the game they play and as long as those in charge care about the community's opinion of how things are run (which WDF? seems to do admirably), we have just as much right to discuss options and offer input.



HolyJaw wrote:
In the end, everything Endyss said.


Splinter
#41 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:30:44 PM
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Mt_Dew wrote:
{pDs} Splinter wrote:
fuck it, take the points and reset them. those who bitch about it slap em in the face.

Good attitude. Alienate the player base.
Your argument: Fuck them, we can always get more players.
Our argument: Fuck them, we can always play on another server.
Win-win or lose-lose situation?


Its called sarcasm, not every post has to be serious like you Dr. Phil

ahhhh_crap wrote:
no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
Mt_Dew
#42 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:16:08 PM
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{pDs} Splinter wrote:
Mt_Dew wrote:
{pDs} Splinter wrote:
fuck it, take the points and reset them. those who bitch about it slap em in the face.

Good attitude. Alienate the player base.
Your argument: Fuck them, we can always get more players.
Our argument: Fuck them, we can always play on another server.
Win-win or lose-lose situation?


Its called sarcasm, not every post has to be serious like you Dr. Phil

I hate you die.

=P


Qazster
#43 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:18:26 PM
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Mt_Dew wrote:
{pDs} Splinter wrote:
Mt_Dew wrote:
{pDs} Splinter wrote:
fuck it, take the points and reset them. those who bitch about it slap em in the face.

Good attitude. Alienate the player base.
Your argument: Fuck them, we can always get more players.
Our argument: Fuck them, we can always play on another server.
Win-win or lose-lose situation?


Its called sarcasm, not every post has to be serious like you Dr. Phil

I hate you die.

=P


Was that that one thing you call sarcasm? or do you truly hate him, and wishes that his life would end?


But back on topic, I think the points system is ok i don't care about points but I like to know what rank I am just for the hell of it.

WDF?
#44 Posted: : Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:50:40 PM
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Mt_Dew wrote:
bitchmaker wrote:
I hate it when fuckin people show up play for FRRE on a server that whut pays for out of pocket, and then complain.....FUCK YOU....Go the fuck away.

And for those who donate? Don't use a templated response used throughout teh intartubes. I'm thinking about donating, but I want to make sure it's a good investment. You do understand what an investment is, right? I'd pay money to people who listens to the concerns of its player base, even if they aren't contributing to the coffers... yet. WDF seems to be doing a descent job treating everyone as if they are potential contributors, and that's good business practice.

Still, what do points mean? I put some sort of statistics in a magical black box and out comes a number. "...But what does it mean?"


Those who donate donate because they feel this is a worthy cause. I try and manage the best possible servers around. My team is fair. The servers, while usually paid for by me, are community driven. Everyones opinion is taken into consideration.

I welcome your contribution if you see fit to do so, but I will not be held hostage by someone who feels entitled to things based on the fact that they chose to support an establishment through donation. I ask you to not question my integrity unless you have all the facts required to do so. I have dedicated eight years of my life maintaining this community. I think I'm doing a pretty good job.

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