|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin, Administration
Joined: 3/27/2008
Posts: 1,793
Points: 3,380
Location: Arizona
|
RichardAwesome wrote:virus wrote:
Lincoln was introduced to the vast audience by his former neighbor, E. D. Baker, at this time senator from Oregon. In one hand Lincoln had his silk hat, and as he looked about for a place to put it, his old antagonist, Douglas, took it. To a lady he whispered: “If I can’t be President, I can at least hold the President’s hat.”
Obama is OUR president now. If you don't like his policies, in another 4 years there will be another election. In the meantime, we have a lot of problems to address together in this country to repair the damage done by 8 years of Neoconservative ideas in action.
Wait wait wait... where were you when Bush was elected saying the same thing? We gotta band together? It's my turn to say "fuck that." I don't believe Obama is looking out for America's best interests and frankly I will cast doubt until he proves otherwise. There seems to be a few key differences - though some of these I have yet to verify. And some are perhaps mere guesses. Feel free to rebu - He doesn't owe anybody political favors.
- He's a "New Democrat". He has redefined the Democratic party and, as such, won't be bound as strictly to the expectations that have traditionally been held.
- People really, really want something new and I suspect will be more willing to support even the candidate of the opposing party to make something new happen - politicians and civilians alike.
- He's young and idealistic which will energize the population and, hopefully, other politicians
- He's a minority and will energize those demographics
- He represents progression which I suspect will make our ally countries happy, and hopefully make us feel better about ourselves as a nation that often considers itself progressive, but is usually rather stagnant.
- He's not a businessman. His first and last thought of the day won't be "How can I make myself and my buds some money?"
He's a new breed of politician. I'm not sure what to expect, but I wouldn't expect more of the same. Will I stand up and say "I voted for him" if something goes sour? Of course I will. Because even if some things turn out bad, he was still the better choice than McCain.
|
|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: Administration, Newsie, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/6/2007
Posts: 987
Points: 783
|
Rikaelus wrote:Of course, living in Arizona, my vote didn't really count for squat in the final race. Thank you, Electoral College, for making my vote mean nothing. Long live democracy! The electoral college tends to follow the popular vote, so in the larger sense, each individual vote counts. The difference between the electoral college and a purely popular vote is that battleground locations around the country take on key importance, rather than simply winning over population centers. While the original purpose of the electoral college -- colonies-turned-states with higher populations overpowering smaller states and imposing massive cultural changes on smaller states (the same logic underlying the split between the Senate and House of Representatives) -- may be largely outdated, the current effect of forcing candidates to fight for votes all over the country is still far better than the simpler but more potentially disenfranchising alternative, IMO. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
|
|
|
Rank: Pooter Scooter
Groups: Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/8/2006
Posts: 2,468
Points: 2,103
Location: San Antonio, Texas
|
 In an hour of Darkness a blind man is the best guide. In an age of Insanity look to the madman to lead the way. 
|
|
|
Rank: Fuckstick
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 9/21/2008
Posts: 702
Points: 1,358
Location: California
|
THIS is made of all kinds of funny! xD wrote:{pDs} TitaniumPhoenix: We're Mexican. I say we pull a razor outta our titties and cut them!
[CMS]Noobina: omg thats where you keep yours too?! wrote:{pDs} TitaniumPhoenix: You mean that's not you in my titties? THEN WHO IS IT? D:
{pDs} Razor: I don't know but I would imagine if you push them together you would probably hear AFLAC!!! 
|
|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User, Server Admin, Administration
Joined: 3/27/2008
Posts: 1,793
Points: 3,380
Location: Arizona
|
endyss wrote:Rikaelus wrote:Of course, living in Arizona, my vote didn't really count for squat in the final race. Thank you, Electoral College, for making my vote mean nothing. Long live democracy! The electoral college tends to follow the popular vote, so in the larger sense, each individual vote counts. The difference between the electoral college and a purely popular vote is that battleground locations around the country take on key importance, rather than simply winning over population centers. While the original purpose of the electoral college -- colonies-turned-states with higher populations overpowering smaller states and imposing massive cultural changes on smaller states (the same logic underlying the split between the Senate and House of Representatives) -- may be largely outdated, the current effect of forcing candidates to fight for votes all over the country is still far better than the simpler but more potentially disenfranchising alternative, IMO. But the popular vote within the state ends at the state. From there it's who "the state" wants. If you're vote is in the minority within the state, then nothing is being passed on to the presidential race. If all states split Electoral Votes proportionate to the vote within, it wouldn't be so bad. At least then everyones' voice carries to the final race.
|
|
|
Rank: Fecal Impaction For the Win!
Groups: {pDs} Member
Joined: 6/8/2006
Posts: 1,525
Points: 9
Location: US
|
The stock market seems to have enjoyed Obamas speech last night...
|
|
|
Rank: Polio Power!
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 8/1/2008
Posts: 658
Points: 81
Location: SoCal
|
Rikaelus wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:virus wrote:
Lincoln was introduced to the vast audience by his former neighbor, E. D. Baker, at this time senator from Oregon. In one hand Lincoln had his silk hat, and as he looked about for a place to put it, his old antagonist, Douglas, took it. To a lady he whispered: “If I can’t be President, I can at least hold the President’s hat.”
Obama is OUR president now. If you don't like his policies, in another 4 years there will be another election. In the meantime, we have a lot of problems to address together in this country to repair the damage done by 8 years of Neoconservative ideas in action.
Wait wait wait... where were you when Bush was elected saying the same thing? We gotta band together? It's my turn to say "fuck that." I don't believe Obama is looking out for America's best interests and frankly I will cast doubt until he proves otherwise. There seems to be a few key differences - though some of these I have yet to verify. And some are perhaps mere guesses. Feel free to rebu - He doesn't owe anybody political favors.
- He's a "New Democrat". He has redefined the Democratic party and, as such, won't be bound as strictly to the expectations that have traditionally been held.
- People really, really want something new and I suspect will be more willing to support even the candidate of the opposing party to make something new happen - politicians and civilians alike.
- He's young and idealistic which will energize the population and, hopefully, other politicians
- He's a minority and will energize those demographics
- He represents progression which I suspect will make our ally countries happy, and hopefully make us feel better about ourselves as a nation that often considers itself progressive, but is usually rather stagnant.
- He's not a businessman. His first and last thought of the day won't be "How can I make myself and my buds some money?"
He's a new breed of politician. I'm not sure what to expect, but I wouldn't expect more of the same. Will I stand up and say "I voted for him" if something goes sour? Of course I will. Because even if some things turn out bad, he was still the better choice than McCain. He's anything but a new breed of politician. If anything, he's a populist like Bill Clinton. I'm not swooned by his buzz words of change and hope which are just ambiguous concepts with no actual substance. It's possible his new Chief of Staff will be Emanual who is an incredibly Machieavellian political activist in his own right who convinced Obama to break his first promise and not take public campaign funds. If you think Obama is something different, you're enchanted by fine words.
|
|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: Administration, Newsie, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/6/2007
Posts: 987
Points: 783
|
RichardAwesome wrote:If you think Obama is something different, you're enchanted by fine words. I dunno, man, after 8 years of this, we could use some fine words HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
|
|
|
Rank: Polio Power!
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 8/1/2008
Posts: 658
Points: 81
Location: SoCal
|
endyss wrote:RichardAwesome wrote:If you think Obama is something different, you're enchanted by fine words. I dunno, man, after 8 years of this, we could use some fine words Won't be much different if Obama ever has to be impromptu in which he stutters worse than Milton in Office Space.
|
|
|
Rank: You're gonna stick that where?
Groups: Registered User
Joined: 5/17/2006
Posts: 363
Points: 0
Location: San Jose, CA
|
RichardAwesome is a dumb faggot hope this helps p.s. 
|
|
|
Rank: Administration
Groups: Administration, Newsie, Registered User, Server Admin
Joined: 11/6/2007
Posts: 987
Points: 783
|
Brosnan wrote:RichardAwesome is a dumb faggot hope this helps
That was out of line.
Please keep it civil. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
|
|
|
Rank: Polio Power!
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 8/1/2008
Posts: 658
Points: 81
Location: SoCal
|
Brosnan wrote:RichardAwesome is a dumb faggot hope this helps p.s. lol He looks so lonely.
|
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 8/23/2008
Posts: 39
Points: 0
Location: Renton, WA
|
Brosnan wrote:RichardAwesome is a dumb faggot hope this helps p.s. :'( Ron Paul Revolution 2016! (Not Dead Obama Re-Election 2012!)
|
|
|
Rank: Fuckstick
Groups: {pDs} Member, Moderator, Newsie
Joined: 5/9/2006
Posts: 941
Points: 450
Location: Long Beach
|
Glad on Obama now NO ON PROP 8! [01:34] whutdufk: I love you Spaniard Lead Salad wrote:I love you Spaniard FinalGamer wrote:I love you Spaniard <3
|
|
|
Rank: Polio Power!
Groups: {pDs} Member, Registered User
Joined: 8/1/2008
Posts: 658
Points: 81
Location: SoCal
|
The_Spaniard wrote:Glad on Obama now NO ON PROP 8! It already passed.
|
|
|
| Users browsing this topic |
|
Guest
|